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Tory MP blames food bank use on people not knowing how to cook or budge

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GagaJo Wed 11-May-22 17:55:13

Who votes these ar**s in?

A Tory MP has been widely condemned after suggesting people use food banks because “generation after generation” of people in the UK cannot cook or budget properly.

Ashfield MP Lee Anderson told the House of Commons there wasn't a “massive use” for food banks in this country.

uk.yahoo.com/news/tory-mp-lee-anderson-food-banks-143349974.html

Callistemon21 Sun 15-May-22 15:25:01

MissAdventure

3 chickens (which I absolutely doubt is true, by the way) and some fruit isnt actually going to make meals for a week.
No veg?
No gravy?
No potatoes/rice, or something to go with this chicken?

I'm fed up with people thinking that spotting a special offer means they are some sort of savvy shopper.

No breakfasts, no beverages, condiments, bread, potatoes, rice, pasta, lunches etc.

Presumably these all appeared in the cupboard and fridge by magic.

MissAdventure Sun 15-May-22 15:25:27

I knew it wouldn't be 3 complete chickens.
Still, not much waste on thighs, as there isnt all that much meat on them either.

JaneJudge Sun 15-May-22 15:36:24

That is what I meant earlier by you cannot chuck something together if you don't have enough food in the first place

JaneJudge Sun 15-May-22 15:38:41

this is what is on the 3 for £10 offer

www.coop.co.uk/products/deals/3-for-10-pounds

Callistemon21 Sun 15-May-22 15:39:26

I'd need curry powder, coconut milk and rice, onions etc already to go with the chicken but they come free, presumably.
Along with the onion bahjis.

DaisyAnne Sun 15-May-22 15:40:08

Indeed M0nica.

Blondiescot Sun 15-May-22 15:42:07

And yet, funnily enough, our local Co-op had a freezer offer where you got two pieces of cod in batter, a pack of fish fingers, a pack of oven chips, pack of garden peas and a Vienetta - all of £5. So who can blame people for buying that instead?

MayBee70 Sun 15-May-22 15:44:48

I’ve asked her which branch is selling 3 chickens for £10 as we eat a lot of chicken and it’s very good value….

JaneJudge Sun 15-May-22 15:45:02

Blondiescot

And yet, funnily enough, our local Co-op had a freezer offer where you got two pieces of cod in batter, a pack of fish fingers, a pack of oven chips, pack of garden peas and a Vienetta - all of £5. So who can blame people for buying that instead?

I love these deals smile

Blondiescot Sun 15-May-22 15:49:05

JaneJudge

Blondiescot

And yet, funnily enough, our local Co-op had a freezer offer where you got two pieces of cod in batter, a pack of fish fingers, a pack of oven chips, pack of garden peas and a Vienetta - all of £5. So who can blame people for buying that instead?

I love these deals smile

Prepare to be judged - how could you not have gone and caught your own fish, grew your own potatoes for the chips, grew your peas and milked your own cow to make ice cream for the Viennetta??? gringringrin

JaneJudge Sun 15-May-22 16:21:17

so true grin grin

DaisyAnne Sun 15-May-22 16:29:03

It's one of those days for threads on here. I think it follows Eurovision.

Everyone knows things are not quite as they seem, and yet they are, and more so.

Doodledog Sun 15-May-22 16:51:50

It's clear from this thread, and entirely unsurprising, as we are all human, that most people see the world as they live it.

Those who are able to cook think everyone should be able to cook. Those who learnt cooking and budgeting at school think it should be taught there, and if those who well by learning what they see as more important subjects think that others should also pick it up as they go along. Those whose mothers taught them think the skills should be taught in the home and so on.

It may seem obvious to those with a fridge, freezer, microwave and soup maker that veg can be bought in bulk or cheaply when 'on the turn' and made into batch cooked meals, and equally obvious to those without a local market or transport to get to one that this isn't an option. And so it goes for that side of things, too.

What is, however, very clear, is that the idea that you can cook anything other than gruel for 30p a portion is ridiculous, and that the fact that some might have to try to get as close to this figure as they can to fend off hunger is utterly shameful.

Callistemon21 Sun 15-May-22 16:55:51

It is also clear that those who eat substantial, nutritious and delicious food subsidised by the taxpayer then claimed on expenses have no clue whatsoever that food cannot be produced for 30p per meal and are patronising in the extreme to think anyone can do this.

Doodledog Sun 15-May-22 17:13:09

Very true grin.

I don't know how they have the nerve to come on TV and say things like that, knowing that we know that they claim so much on expenses alone.

I love the idea of limiting their expense claims to 30p per meal per day.

westendgirl Sun 15-May-22 17:16:05

I heard the interview between Jane Garvey and Mr Anderson on Radio 4 this morning too, OakDryad.Bombastic in the extreme he came across as a know it all with no time for anyone else.
Dreadful.

M0nica Sun 15-May-22 17:51:09

Blondiescot and all on the (small) balcony of a high rise flat!

The problem is the poor just do not try hard enough. They should be aiming to be self sufficient. (joke)

Dickens Sun 15-May-22 17:58:03

Doodledog

Very true grin.

I don't know how they have the nerve to come on TV and say things like that, knowing that we know that they claim so much on expenses alone.

I love the idea of limiting their expense claims to 30p per meal per day.

It's simply not possible, but...

... .I'm sure we could find them a catering company - similar to the ones that supply our hospitals - who can rustle up a 'BOGOF' type meal for about £1 per head.

And that's generous - 70p more generous than the 30p the poor are expected to live on.

Looking at their menu - and their expenses claims - I honestly marvel at their nerve sometimes.

DaisyAnne Sun 15-May-22 18:14:36

Re: Doodledog Sun 15-May-22 16:51:50

I cannot agree that "Those who are able to cook think everyone should be able to cook." is being said here. Those who can cook understand that there is no way you can produce a meal, from scratch for 30p. Because they can cook they must understand that.

You make it sound as if none of us can and do think this through. That is far from what I have been reading on here. Some make such remarks but most people are simply concerned and do not agree with the comment this man made.

Or have I misread this?

Callistemon21 Sun 15-May-22 19:31:37

Chocolatelovinggran

Blondiescot, how much is gruel these days??

What is gruel?

Oh, it's thin porridge.

We were posh, we had Weetabix an Shredded Wheat.
You can tell I came from a privileged background (not).

varian Sun 15-May-22 19:41:02

One slice toast = 10p
half a tin of baked beans = 20p

Easy peasy

OK for lunch now and then but you would not to eat it for every meal.

Callistemon21 Sun 15-May-22 19:48:06

I have to have butter ......

But that doesn't count, obviously, as it was just there courtesy of the fridge fairy.

Doodledog Sun 15-May-22 19:49:18

DaisyAnne

Re: Doodledog Sun 15-May-22 16:51:50

I cannot agree that "Those who are able to cook think everyone should be able to cook." is being said here. Those who can cook understand that there is no way you can produce a meal, from scratch for 30p. Because they can cook they must understand that.

You make it sound as if none of us can and do think this through. That is far from what I have been reading on here. Some make such remarks but most people are simply concerned and do not agree with the comment this man made.

Or have I misread this?

You've missed the gist of the post, which is that people are seeing all of this from the perspective of their own lives, which is what most people do. I didn't mention that those who want to find fault with posters they like to find fault with are doing so, but that is happening too, of course.

People are leaping to unfounded conclusions and misinterpreting what is being said at times, too. I don't think that you have to be able to cook to know that you can't make a meal for 30p. You just have to have been in a shop once or twice.

DaisyAnne Sun 15-May-22 20:05:33

Indeed Doodledog. Well I'm not going to look back and I'm glad I got busy when I did.

It sounds as if people have forgotten "there but for the grace of God (or the turn of fate) go I."

Dickens Sun 15-May-22 20:07:08

Callistemon21

^We were posh, we had Weetabix an Shredded Wheat.
You can tell I came from a privileged background (not).^

... Weetabix and Shredded Wheat?

You were lucky, we only had Corn Flakes. And we had to eat them out of the cardboard box because we didn't have any bowls. Or milk.

Do you feel a Monty Python sketch coming on grin