Tory MP blames food bank use on people not knowing how to cook or budge

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MayBee70

Does anyone know why the cost of chicken is going to increase dramatically soon? I keep hearing about it. I bet it took my MP ( or her lackeys) ages to find something that was good value!

I bet it is the feed.

It's the feed, according to the Co-Op:

www.theguardian.com/food/2022/may/01/rising-feed-prices-mean-chicken-could-soon-cost-as-much-as-beef

I don't think the police officer was wrong to say there needs to common sense applied as to why people are stealing, but I'm not sure it was wise to announce it.

As far as I know, the Met police don't prosecute a shoplifting incident under £75, so it wouldn't apply anyway. The shops tend to use the civil courts to recover compensation.

MayBee70

Does anyone know why the cost of chicken is going to increase dramatically soon? I keep hearing about it. I bet it took my MP ( or her lackeys) ages to find something that was good value!

I bet it is the feed.

I was quite impressed with the police officer. I didn't catch their name but they seemed to understand that the causes of crime weren't just "you're a bad'un" and that there needed to be some effort made to understand what drove people to do things that they would normally never consider.

But Malthouse said he was wrong and it was because crime causes poverty.

So. Who do I think has the more nuanced view, and who would I rather have in charge of looking at crime statistics and how society goes about handling it?

Some crime can cause poverty I would think.

A drug supplier, selling drugs to the poor, will make them even poorer, and unable to look after their families.

A shoplifter, stealing from a local shop, will make that small shop owner poorer.

I can understand someone stealing a loaf of bread, from a supermarket, because they have no food, but poverty isn't an excuse to commit crime.

I expect most of us have been pretty financially poor, at some point. This isn't the first recession we've had. Most of us didn't go out shoplifting.

No, I was eating breakfast when he said it on the news and I thought, aha! that's the problem! How could we not have known? ?

Oh volver, thank you for sharing Mr Malthouse's helpful insights with us. I didn't know this, did you??

I wonder if we should have a thread entitled "daft things Tory MPs have said and done today".

A senior police officer has said that the force will need to be circumspect about understanding shoplifting in the next wee while as the Cost of Living crisis means more people will turn to shoplifting as a last resort.

Kit Malthouse says its not poverty that causes people to do things like that. Crime causes poverty. So basically, he thinks that if you're poor, its probably because you're a criminal.

MissAdventure

Is it because chickens are being kept indoors at the minute?

The cheap ones are raised indoors.
One average size free range chicken will probably cost about £10.

Some restrictions have been lifted now, I think.

Mark Carney warned about this but no one listened to him. I thought the new Governor was in the governments pocket. Dread to think what Carney would be saying now.

Yes. Ed Davey made an appeal today to help farmers with the rocketing cost of animal feed and fertilizer for arable. They are cutting back on food production because of rising costs. The government benches made animal noises while he was speaking.

On Monday, Andrew Bailey, the governor of the Bank of England warned of "apocalyptic" food prices, saying he feels "helpless" amid soaring inflation. He's not alone.

Isn’t it because the price of grain is increasing, so it’s becoming uneconomical to raise them to sell cheaply?

Is it because chickens are being kept indoors at the minute?

Does anyone know why the cost of chicken is going to increase dramatically soon? I keep hearing about it. I bet it took my MP ( or her lackeys) ages to find something that was good value!

I don't eat meat so had no idea of cost. She said her Co-op does not sell whole cooked chicken but larger branches and different regional Co-ops might albeit smaller than the raw ones.

Well, that's me corrected, then.
It's good to hear it from someone who knows it to be true.

Just heard from friend who works in Co-op. Says they sell 3 x 1.6kg uncooked chickens for £10. Not an offer but a regular thing.

MissAdventure

Hmmm.
I'm afraid I don't believe 3 chickens cost £10.
I stand to be corrected though, obviously.

Just had a quick look on my Tesco app small chickens £2.89 each Aldi price match

Hmmm.
I'm afraid I don't believe 3 chickens cost £10.
I stand to be corrected though, obviously.

Cooked chickens (the very small ones that sell for £2.95 raw) are £5.00 each in Sainsburys.

The Coop.If I wasn’t still getting my shopping delivered I’d go to the shop to check.

Where did she say she bought the chickens?
I'm still sceptical, I'm afraid.

I’ve had a reply from my MP (who was on tv the other day saying you could buy three chickens for £10) to say the three chickens for £10 that she referred to were cooked chickens. Now, in the context of the debate I would have assumed she meant uncooked chickens that you could then make several meals from eg stews, curries salads. A cooked chicken (from what I’ve seen of supermarket cooked chickens they’re very small) would only provide one or two meals and would have to be eaten within a couple of days. I suppose you could boil the carcass to make stock but that would use a lot of electricity. So, what she said was correct but, imo, misleading.

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Chocolatelovinggran

Oh, Daddima and Grandmabatty- great examples of a picture painting a thousand words! Thank you, both.

I’ll second that!??