Sue Gray report and photos to be released today.

Totally agree Buffy .. He is a security risk to our country !

LondonMzFitz I was discussing arrangements for visitors during a hospital visit today. I know Johnson visited the hospital a few months ago. I told the nurse I want No-BJ written on the board above my bed.

Fashionista1

There has been a witchunt mounted against Boris Johnson by the press and media the like of which has never been seen before. This is mainly since he managed to Get Brexit Done. The remoaners can't wait to replace him with a pro-Europe minister and then we will be back in Europe before you can draw breath. People are not silly, we know what all this is about.

That's your opinion. Frankly, I think it's silly.

growstuff

LondonMzFitz I was discussing arrangements for visitors during a hospital visit today. I know Johnson visited the hospital a few months ago. I told the nurse I want No-BJ written on the board above my bed.

Sorry that made me smile Growstuff good job you are not a bloke

Nannashirlz

Are we still going on about this ? as for his staff it sounds like while the boss is away the staff did play. Yes they were wrong but Don’t we have more important things to worry about like energy costs and food costs which affects us all

Never mind! I'm sure somebody will wake you up when it's all over.

Whitewavemark2

Rory Stewart: "They won't make basic decisions... as the whole of Downing Street is about one thing, which is the survival of Johnson, they are sacrificing everything... to try to keep this monstrous ego floating around in No.10.. our country feels like Berlusconi's Italy"

Absolutely bang on, but why oh why will Rory not come back and at least TRY to throw his hat in the ring, there are two bi-elections in the offing shortly

All those saying we should not be focusing on ‘partygate’ and all the associated lies, do you realise that the only reason Sunak is doing anything about the cost of living is because of the pressure over the parties/law-breaking?

MayBee70

Aren’t the government also responsible for the other problems facing the country at the moment. Or are some people forgetting that the government presiding over the No 10 lockdown parties are also the government responsible for all the problems that are a result of 10+ years of Tory government.

Aww! C'mon! Give them some slack! The poor darlings have to drown their sorrows because they don't have any answers to the other problems and they're fed up with the revolting plebs.

Neilspurgeon0

Whitewavemark2

Rory Stewart: "They won't make basic decisions... as the whole of Downing Street is about one thing, which is the survival of Johnson, they are sacrificing everything... to try to keep this monstrous ego floating around in No.10.. our country feels like Berlusconi's Italy"

Absolutely bang on, but why oh why will Rory not come back and at least TRY to throw his hat in the ring, there are two bi-elections in the offing shortly

He is no longer a conservative member. He is sort of toying with the idea of standing as an independent, but says it is remarkably difficult without the support of a large political party and the media( in the Tories case) behind you.

Zonne

All those saying we should not be focusing on ‘partygate’ and all the associated lies, do you realise that the only reason Sunak is doing anything about the cost of living is because of the pressure over the parties/law-breaking?

That ... and those losses in the recent local elections. The timing is spot on ... I wonder why!

DiamondLily

Starmer won PMQ, hands down. Johnson ended up sounding like a lunatic, shouting and waving his arms around, talking about things that weren't relevant lol ?

Starmer in points by a huge margin.

Lawyerly ‘scientific vivisection of each nerve till it is raw’ (but unfortunately not ‘till the victim writhes in anguish’), Johnson has zero conceit of anguish.

She777

All the parties are as bad as each other in a “Do what I say, not what I do” attitude.
I’m bored to tears of all the Partygate drama and people hanging on to it, there is a lot going on in the world and this just seems like trivial bunk to me.
I followed the rules of lockdown to the T, people in my street didn’t and got away with it, people held an illegal rave and there were no arrests or fines and on and on with more and more examples but it’s time to move on and focus on more important things that are happening now.

Partygate is not the sole pre-occupation of the government. It has many departments dealing with different aspects of the political and economic life of this country.

From various news sources, it seems they are actually focusing on a variety of current issues.

There is a ministerial code for a reason - they sign up to it and pledge to follow it. Johnson obfuscated and lied - if he'd owned up from the beginning, we'd have already 'moved on'.

The people holding illegal raves didn't make the rules - Johnson did, and with his 'solemn' face on, told us we had to follow them. He didn't, because he doesn't think normal obligations that others have to live by apply to him.

It's not the parties, it's the lying and refusal to acknowledge that he lied.

That's why we haven't moved on.

Well you got off lightly there Fashionista1! ?

It used to be said that religion was the opium of the masses by put it now seems to be politics. I feel the electorate have been brainwashed by a series of soundbites.

Hollycat

I really can’t get excited about parties in Downing Street. I’m far more exercised by the videos we were treated to at the height of the Pandemic of NHS staff dancing in corridors while their patients gasped their life away from Covid. Who does that? Would they be dancing outside the bedroom door of their dying mother? It was callous, insensitive and disgusting.

Did I miss something? I recall smiling staff in corridors as people with long-covid left, I don't recall parties, dancing, fights, red wine and vomit on the walls etc from NHS staff. I do know I saw people doing their job in the most difficult of circumstances, watching people die and being unable to do anything about it, with the marks of facemasks embedded on their faces after countless hours at their place of work.

Boris and Co were the ones calling the shots on Covid.
NHS and staff in similar areas were the ones mopping up the mess. I doubt any of the NHS staff have been left unscathed by what they saw, I do see Government telling people it's old news and to move on. Like it's a script.

who would replace him?
my issue is when he said he does not understand that a leaving party was against the rules
i think it would be better if he admitted he broke the rules and acknowledged that
but then i am not a tory voter.

Iam64

GrannyG13, do you believe there will be a vote of no confidence?

Johnson as PM presided over a culture of heavy drinking, one in which the normal rules didn’t apply. That mirrors the way he’s lived his working and private life. He is impulsive, doesn’t do detail, doesn’t care, lacks empathy, is self indulgent and expects to have his needs met, instant gratification at his core. He’s shameless and his apologies are meaningless.

I live in hope that enough decent tories are ashamed and a vote of no confidence is called and wins. I don’t expect it to happen though. One of those occasions when I hope I’m wrong

@Iam64 Sadly,Mr Johnson took the precaution of getting rid of all the decent Tories: www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/tory-rebellion-the-21-conservative-mps-who-will-have-the-whip-withdrawn-after-voting-against-the-government-a4228391.html and Amber Rudd resigned in protest...

Sleepygran- spot on !

Gosh, Hollycat: which hospital was that?
Do tell, as most other nhs staff would probably want these people disciplined.

Yes or no seem like obvious answers but I have never yet heard a politician say either, although I wait with bated breath each time they are asked a straight forward question.

I would just like to add, Jeremy Hunt is the one I would put forward as our new PM.

I feel so angry that Boris feels that he can just decide that it is time to move on and expects to be able to just close that chapter without any consequences. Saying sorry is easy and he will just blunder to the next thing to lie about.
He is looking terribly scruffy recently too. Much more than usual, shirt tail hanging below his suit jacket, shirt collar curled under and the hair, well that has always been a mess.
It seems as if the Police have been complicit too.
It is amazing how many M.P’s are prepared to defend him, making them almost as bad. I could never again vote Conservative. Couldn’t vote for Labour as no idea what their policies are, Keir Starmer never says , he is too busy just nit picking and being petty.
Rory Stewart has a very interesting interview on utube, his examples are excellent and he doesn’t like Boris, nor does he hold back. He seems a very principled man, things would have been very different if he had of been PM.

In all my 75 years I have never been so ashamed of our so-called Government, which for some time now has been operating in a moral vacuum, where integrity and honesty have no place. As the Captain who has consistently steered his ship onto a succession of rocks, Johnson's reaction to these shameful revelations is to keep changing some of the crew, as if the responsibility for this disgraceful debacle somehow lies elsewhere. The man has no honour whatsoever, and if he continues to ignore public opinion and clings on to power regardless, the Conservative party will be rightly decimated at the next General Election. He should just go, and the sooner the better.

Danma

I was at PMQs yesterday and of course stayed on to hear his statement following the release of Sue Gray’s report.
Nothing changed in his response to the initial accusations or his demeanour
No one gave him a particularly hard time over it either
???

He is treating it as a joke.

I'd like to see the smirk wiped off his face.

Urmstongran

Well you got off lightly there Fashionista1! ?

The post was so utterly daft it isn't worth a response, Urm.

micmc47

In all my 75 years I have never been so ashamed of our so-called Government, which for some time now has been operating in a moral vacuum, where integrity and honesty have no place. As the Captain who has consistently steered his ship onto a succession of rocks, Johnson's reaction to these shameful revelations is to keep changing some of the crew, as if the responsibility for this disgraceful debacle somehow lies elsewhere. The man has no honour whatsoever, and if he continues to ignore public opinion and clings on to power regardless, the Conservative party will be rightly decimated at the next General Election. He should just go, and the sooner the better.

I hope you are right mcimc and the conservatives are defeated at the next election. If it was down to those of us who post on the N&P forum of GN, they certainly would.

Unfortunately I suspect that we, as a group, are not typical voters.

I suspect that the more typical voter has very little interest in or knowledge of politics, but reads the right wing press because they are interested in sport or celebs or other trivia, but along the way allow themselves to be instructed to vote Conservative by the billionaire newspaper proprietors who have their own agenda.