Thomas Markle rushed to hospital after a suspected stroke.

Tina Brown interviewed Thomas Markle, of whom she speaks highly. Apparently Prince Harry rang him in his hospital bed and berated him at length for the distress he had caused Meghan after the wedding.

That's shocking! So much for compassion.

Surely it’s not about what we do or don’t ‘owe’ our parents, but simply all to do with love.
Yes Meghan might feel cross, embarrassed, exasperated with her father’s behaviour but what has happened to the love she clearly felt for him, expressed in glowing terms not too many years ago?

Megan’s mother’s family were not invited to the wedding

Meghan is estranged from her father, and also her entire family, none of whom were invited to her wedding, bar her mother. She is also estranged from her husband's immediate family.
Tina Brown interviewed Thomas Markle, of whom she speaks highly. Apparently Prince Harry rang him in his hospital bed and berated him at length for the distress he had caused Meghan after the wedding.

“Grouch” ?
Through ☺️☺️

A dignified silence, Megan ? - Oprah interview.

We shouldn’t discuss this family, we don’t know them ! - we all
know the Windsors ?

Two things we do know , Megan is estranged from her family and her husband’s family.

Galaxy

Crikey if my children felt they owed me something because of money I had spent I would be appalled.

You are extrapolating from what I said.
I think credit can be given to parents for supporting their children both in their education and careers - and yes I am grateful that my parents supported me grouch university when many of my friends had to start work at 15 or 18 because family circumstances dictated otherwise.
But do I owe them? Yes, a debt of gratitude.
I do actually think I “owe” them for the love and care and nurturing I received as a child, for a secure environment in which I am sure we as children were in the forefront of their lives.

I depends on the people involved .I have a sister who basically abdicated from the family and calls ,letters and msgs to her daughter about our mother were all ignored .
Even when mum was on her deathbed.

She tells everyone she had a wonderful upbringing ,a great childhood so we are all in the dark about her reasons .

We think she didn't want any responsibility of caring for mum when dad died.
She did appear at the funeral though in tears ,my mother wouldhave said crocodile tears.Supported on both sides my her partner and inlaws .Still makes me angry to think of it

12 YEARS she stayed away ...maybe Ms Markle will wait for a photo op before she shows face too?

Crikey if my children felt they owed me something because of money I had spent I would be appalled.

I think some people think that children owe their parents something
Well actually I do.
Not necessarily in relation to this particular case, but as it happens I understand Thomas Markle did pay for his daughters education and his career in film production played a large part in promoting or developing his daughter’s ambitions .

Whitewavemark2

mumofmadboys

Unless any of us actually know the Markle family personally I don't think we should be commenting. I would be appalled and angry if people talked about our family's dynamics on social media without knowing us well. It isn't fair and too many suppositions are being made without knowing the facts.

Yes

This

Allsorts

Sorry Serendipity, I thought you were saying he was bad person.
Yes Smileless, I agree with your sentiments. It's enough to finish you off. .

Quite so. All the ensuing drama

I think some people think that children owe their parents something. Ihave seen, "estrangement should not happen unless there is serious abuse" too many times. Even then what abuse is is not agreed on....

Respect needs go be earned as a parent, its not a given because of DNA

Even Disney films are forever highlighting abuse, neglect and emotionally unsupportive or controlling parents these days.

Families are complicated things at times.

No one knows the personal background to all this, so it's really not anyone's business but Meghan and Harry's.

On Gransnet we have trued to be supportive of those estranged from close family members. Never really understood why this woman is the focus of the opposite.

mumofmadboys

Unless any of us actually know the Markle family personally I don't think we should be commenting. I would be appalled and angry if people talked about our family's dynamics on social media without knowing us well. It isn't fair and too many suppositions are being made without knowing the facts.

Yes

Unless any of us actually know the Markle family personally I don't think we should be commenting. I would be appalled and angry if people talked about our family's dynamics on social media without knowing us well. It isn't fair and too many suppositions are being made without knowing the facts.

Gosh, I don't think I'm terribly impressed with anyone that I've seen from that group. I do think MM's mother seems a nice lady. If I had to guess, I think MM it's embarrassed by her father and his family, not upper crust enough for her.

I agree with you Dilly. Even she would forgive him for the stunt before the wedding, has has participated in plenty of other stunts that would not be acceptable. Just last week, his photographer friend, who he owns a Youtube channel with, went to an open house next door to her mother just so he could spy on them. At first he stated that he could hear the children while inside the house, then backtracked and said he didn't. I bet the possibility of hearing Archie and Lili would bring lots of viewers to his channel. And with that comes lots of money.

He has stated that he will bad mouth her publicly until she concedes and sees him. Who does that? Not someone who loves his daughter.

She has no obligation to forgive him until he changes his behavior.

Gish yiu should see my facebook before estrangement. I see it in my memories all the time, lots of glowing posts about my mother.

The truth was being desperate to please, fear, comparisons to other families facebook accounts of days together yhroen at me, literal demands I put a post about an occasion on facebook, a weird determination i had that I could somehow be the daughter she wanted and be loved and i guess stockholm syndrome of some type.

I delete them as they come up in memories. They arent real.

And I always wondered why Harry didn't go to meet his future father in law before or after their engagement. It's not as if they couldn't afford it.

I always found this interesting as well. Certainly speaks to things not being in good shape prior to the engagement and TMs silly paparazzi moves.

I’m surprised there was nothing about this on the BBC tv news earlier, although of course the dreadful US shooting dominated most of the bulletin.

Surely now with Thomas being so ill, it is time for his daughter to show him some compassion, and forgive him for his past rather foolish behaviour.

She and Harry are constantly lecturing the rest of us about the need to show kindness and compassion to others, so now is the time to extend that to her own flesh and blood.

Just find the timing very convenient what with the royal jubilee next week. Very much a soap opera.

I don’t think she is obligated to see this ghastly man or her paternal side of the family at all.

Her half brother Thomas junior and his friends were smoking weed in the living room while she cried in her bedroom, at Thomas Markles house which is some pretty negligent parenting.

Her half sister’s own children won’t have anything to do with their mother.

Thomas jr and senior are estranged and Thomas jr was Arrested in 2017 for holding a gun to his fiancée’s head.

From reading about her upbringing it sounds like a chaotic childhood due to a dysfunctional family. They are all estranged from each other and I think Meghan is well rid.

(I’m not a fan of MM, but don’t dislike her either. This nonsense about her being a bad daughter I think is none of the public’s business. Her father appears to me a nasty self absorbed type, and given the outcome of his other children I’m doubtful he was a stable parent.)

Well the Sussexes are coming over for HM the Queen’s Jubilee celebrations next week so it’s highly unlikely Meghan will be seeing her father in the interim days.

Reports say he has no speech and no mobility of his right side. Poor man.