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Thomas Markle rushed to hospital after a suspected stroke.

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Allsorts Wed 25-May-22 22:17:04

Sorry Serendipity, I thought you were saying he was bad person.
Yes Smileless, I agree with your sentiments. It's enough to finish you off. .

Serendipity22 Wed 25-May-22 21:36:16

I was referring to Mr Markles health when i said if he is as bad as the press have exclaimed.

smile

icanhandthemback Wed 25-May-22 21:28:03

Zoejory, nobody is "all" bad but sometimes people do things that cause a complete breakdown in a relationship. 2 years ago my beautiful sister would have made a similar speech about our father having grown up with him. Nowadays she cannot bear to hear his name and I very much doubt she would be at his bedside if he had a stroke. No doubt some of his friends would criticise her for her stance but they wouldn't know the whole story because it is too hurtful to tell them. Maybe MM is in the same position.

lemsip Wed 25-May-22 21:13:01

BlueBelle

LOUISA she told you did she ? blimey you got a crystal ball

what a harsh comment! ...

Louisa clearly said 'she doubts' *NOT she knows

Zoejory Wed 25-May-22 20:52:57

The trials and tribulations of H&M are hard to avoid.

However I do know that Meghan made a glowing speech about her father before she met Harry and she opted to live with him for her teenage years so he can't have been all bad.

I also recall Harry having to apologise for saying in an interview that Meghan had loved her first Christmas spent with his family. He said they were the family she never had. Which of course wasn't true.

www.dailymail.co.uk/video/femail/video-1874298/Video-family-never-Harry-Christmas-Meghan.html

And I always wondered why Harry didn't go to meet his future father in law before or after their engagement. It's not as if they couldn't afford it.

I hope they can eventually manage to live the private life they craved.

Smileless2012 Wed 25-May-22 20:50:42

Our ES rushing to my bedside if I was ill would be the last thing I'd want MissA.

icanhandthemback Wed 25-May-22 20:44:57

We don't know the exact details of what happened between MM and her father, who has rattled his sabre publicly whilst she has kept a dignified silence. Whilst I realise that he may have been desperate so felt he kept pushing, it does seem that it his working with the Press was the straw that absolutely broke the camel's back before the wedding so it seems like a very silly thing to do to make further statements through the press.
It would be nice to think that Meghan could let bygones to be bygones but I wouldn't automatically condemn her if she chose not to.

Casdon Wed 25-May-22 20:36:22

Allsorts

I don’t recall reading anything that said Thomas Markle was bad. Nothing. He supported and was there for her her whole life. She objected to something he had done/not done. What about the lifetime he loved and supported her, the things she wrote about him whilst young, all complimentary. I doubt she will go to him, after all there’s only on member of the whole family she speaks to, her mother. So everyone else is wrong are they? I feel sorry for Thomas he loves her so much, regardless of how she turned out. No a daughter to be proud of, but he is. All this strain on top of his heart problems has got to have put immeasurable pressure on him. He’s never met his grandchildren, how spiteful. I wish him well and peace, because he has had little.

Are you sure you didn’t misread what Serendipity22 said, Allsorts - I think she hoped Mr Markle’s illness was not as bad as reported, not his character?
I don’t think we can possibly know the characters and motivations of either of them, but they should be left to do whatever they want to do without press interference, it’s their business and it’s private.

MissAdventure Wed 25-May-22 20:01:25

Nobody at all knows what lead to the situation as it is between Meghan and her father.
For those who are estranged, would you expect your child to rush to your bedside if you were ill?

Would you rush to theirs, and expect that all would be forgotten, whether or not you feel you were blame free?

Allsorts Wed 25-May-22 19:57:33

I don’t recall reading anything that said Thomas Markle was bad. Nothing. He supported and was there for her her whole life. She objected to something he had done/not done. What about the lifetime he loved and supported her, the things she wrote about him whilst young, all complimentary. I doubt she will go to him, after all there’s only on member of the whole family she speaks to, her mother. So everyone else is wrong are they? I feel sorry for Thomas he loves her so much, regardless of how she turned out. No a daughter to be proud of, but he is. All this strain on top of his heart problems has got to have put immeasurable pressure on him. He’s never met his grandchildren, how spiteful. I wish him well and peace, because he has had little.

Serendipity22 Wed 25-May-22 19:46:50

Nobody can possibly know the history of Megan and her dad the press have really gone to town on their relationship and an awful lot of people have soaked it up, word for word.

Whatever their situation as father and daughter, I hope Mr Markle makes a very good recovery, if he is as bad as the press have exclaimed!

VioletSky Wed 25-May-22 19:45:33

She may visit.

If she has fully estranged him (i dont know) one of the things considered is illness and death. While walking away from a relationship you might think that relationship has ended whatever the circumstances but often in illness and death estrangement is broken to offer care for a parent. This may come with a level of contact you are comfortable with or without having actual contact but making financial and care arrangements for them instead.

I see it often.

I do not think it is wrong to be unable or unwilling to be there for a parent in that situation though. Just as it isnt wrong not to be there for someone in any other ended relationship

Smileless2012 Wed 25-May-22 19:26:57

I doubt it too. If you care about someone you wouldn't treat them the way he's been treated and you're only concerned about someone's health and welfare, if you care about them.

BlueBelle Wed 25-May-22 19:26:52

LOUISA she told you did she ? blimey you got a crystal ball

LOUISA1523 Wed 25-May-22 19:24:23

I doubt she will

JenniferEccles Wed 25-May-22 19:16:51

Apparently he’s unable to speak, but it is very early days so time will tell how well he recovers.
I do feel for this man. Yes he was very foolish to get involved with the paparazzi prior to the wedding but then he has repeatedly apologised, and has acknowledged how very stupid it was to trust them.

Anyway perhaps this will mark the turning point with Meghan as she will surely be rushing to his bedside.