Thomas Markle rushed to hospital after a suspected stroke.

Why would there even have been a conversation about Archie being given titles that it was not in Prince Charles' gift to give? They were talking about Archie not having a title now, not at some point in the future.

Precisely Annie I mean for goodness sake the Archbishop eventually made it clear that he couldn't have possibly married them 3 days earlier, because he'd have been breaking the law when he married them in church.

We do know the truth now though don't we Summerlove, they didn't get married 3 days before the televised ceremony and Archie wasn't denied a title because he's mixed race.

Its frustrating

Im not even sure what i think of Megan really

The only real thing I have taken from it all is that Megans family, by their own words and behaviour, are pretty awful

To be honest, even the Oprah interview was cut and edited so we didn't see the whole thing there either. They could have made it clear that it was a "marriage to them" but we wouldn't know if Oprah's crew had decided to make it more of a "revelation." We have no way of being sure as to what happened, either with the allegations of racism, the discussions about Archie or any other reports. The only things we can know for sure are things that are on public, official records... as long as Boris wasn't involved!

Legally...

But spiritually is a different thing entirely

Smileless2012

They weren't married 3 days before the church ceremony in a private meeting with the Archbishop of Canterbury and Archie was not denied a title because he's mixed race.

How do we know? Because the palace source told us?

Sure there are rules that only the grandchildren of the monarch who are the sons of the next monarch who are going to be given titles. But how do we know that there were not private conversations saying that Harry would in fact have titles for his children that was then taken away?

We don’t.

So no one knows “the truth”. Better to admit that then accuse someone of lying based on “sources”.

Does one need authority to know a marriage cannot take place
without witnesses and a registrar.

The Oprah interview was actually 4 or 6 hours long, edited down to less than 2 hours.

For ratings. By the media.

What was Thomas Markle doing coming to the Jubilee anyway? I suspect he was going to be paid by journalists to let his feelings be known. Not really appropriate behaviour on this occasion. I hope it is all about the Queen and the rest of them smile and bite their tongues.

With what authority can anyone say that everything someone else says is a lie?

Couples do meet with the priest who is to officiate at the wedding , it’s a rehearsal , they would have been told this and the priest explains what he/she will say and what they are to say and when to respond, nothing is signed .

Surely an actress knows what a rehearsal is.

Im not sure that is a lie, just a different perception if it was real to them.

The thing with Archie could easily be a misunderstanding nased on other things said.

I dont really expect people in emotional and hurtful situations to get everything right in reollection and it doesnt proove lies

I keep an open mind to it all, because there is usually fault on both sides of the actual fall out itself, its just a case of what actually led to that point

Smileless2012

There was plenty of made up nonsense during the Oprah interview and all of it came out of H & M's mouths.

Exactly! I made up my mind about them at that point.

Yes I think they did, but that's not what they said during the interview in which they said they were already married, so they hadn't told the truth.

Didnt they later say they exchanged vows?

Which may not be a legal marriage but still may mean more to them than the actual official wedding

They weren't married 3 days before the church ceremony in a private meeting with the Archbishop of Canterbury and Archie was not denied a title because he's mixed race.

Or its very possoble everything they said was the truth unless you tjink uourself some sort of prophet

Anniebach

I base my opinions of this couple by their own words and actions . The press told so many lies about Charles and Camilla
why should they now print truth

Opinions. But they’ve never said her mother had been to prison for example they’ve never talked about being estranged from their family

There was plenty of made up nonsense during the Oprah interview and all of it came out of H & M's mouths.

I base my opinions of this couple by their own words and actions . The press told so many lies about Charles and Camilla
why should they now print truth

Well bankruptcy records are public records in the US. As are arrest records. Of which I could find NONE for Doria Ragland by the way.

It is a bit strange that when someone presents alternate information, a source is demanded. Yet "a source inside the palace" is accepted as fact.

The hypocracy of it is mind boggling.

Thomas Markle himself said on camera he was blackmailing his daughter. He admitted to lying to Harry in an interview.

I would respect a person more if they just admitted they didn't like her because (insert a reason based in fact like she is an American, she is black, she is an actress) instead of this made up nonsense while overlooking the fact that Thomas Markle is himself a toxic person.

We onky know ffor sure what has been directly said in interviews etc

Anniebach

Where did you get all this info,from the press ?

Where else do we get our information ? Unless I’m mistaken nobody on here knows Meghan Harry or Thomas Markle or has even met them ?

Where did you get all this info,from the press ?

I can't believe this thread is still going on

Megan and Harry report that they communicate with the Queen. They specifically made a stop to see her last month. Harry has been photographed twice with Eugenie. We have NO idea if Harry communicated with Charles and William. Other than what the press tells us, because none of us know these people personally.

Not visiting for long periods of time is not estranged. Communicating and visiting when they can is literally the opposite of estrangement.

Megan IS estranged from her family. Her father, the person who won $750,000 in a lottery then ended up trying to evade taxes 4 times, filed bankruptcy more than once, who admitted to getting payment from the press with staged photos and then lied about it and who has threatened Megan multiple times that he would continue selling her out if she did not communicate with her, essentially blackmailing her.

But yea, poor him. Megan should drop everything and run to his side. He is such an upstanding guy. Dad of the year.

Brilliant!!
That would be worth paying to see