What is wrong with the Metropolitan Police Force?

So how come they managed this?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-61659260

They have a lot to answer.

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nanna8
Here’s just one report.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/19/corrupt-met-officers-protected-family-of-stephen-lawrence-murderer

nanna8
How do you think the killers of Steven Laurence avoided justice for so long ?

OakDryad

It seems clear to me that the Met cannot police itself. The Daniel Morgan case proves that.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60832186

Golly OakDryad that is damning. There really does seem to be widespread corruption and a lack of accountability. I remember someone saying years ago that the police and criminal communities were closely linked. It seems little has changed.
I wonder if AGAA4's suggestion of splitting it into smaller forces would help to make it easier to regulate?

They are too caught up in "changing people's thinking".

There have been problems in the Met for a long time.
Smaller police forces don't seem to have the same level of complaints.
I wonder if it is too big and needs to be split.

It seems clear to me that the Met cannot police itself. The Daniel Morgan case proves that.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60832186

nanna8 The Met police has a reputation going back, almost to their formation of working hand in glove with criminals and, especially gangsters, taking bribes, running protection rackets. W have had the recent revelation, through crimes committed and other enquiries of the extent of sexual crimes by police men, not just out of hours, but coercing victimes of crime to have sex. Specifics are the macpherson enquiry which apart from revealng systemic racism in the met also referred to police and gangsters working hand in hand. Then there is Operation Midland, where the police accepted the word of a fantasist, without further enquiry and traduced the characters of people in the public eye, without any evidence at all. So far not a single policeman involved in that enquiry have been sanctioned. All most of them have got out of it is promotion.

Curruption is not big cases, it is the street bookie (when we had them) who slipped the copper on the beat a small sum of money not to see him, the drug dealer today, who does something similar.

Read some of the stories some police officers tell of sexism and threats, not to mention sexual harassment.

The evidence of corruption in the Met is now so routine few newspapers take smuch notice, nor ever have.

I don't think it is necessarily corruption (although if a decent officer is afraid to report a colleague it's certainly something similar) But I do think there must be very different standards and an ethos in the Met which is out of step with the rest of society. More teenage girls have been strip searched, one of them is autistic. www.itv.com/news/london/2022-05-30/met-police-faces-fresh-scrutiny-as-a-third-child-strip-search-case-emerges

MOnica I was speaking of the Met not smaller police forces.

I’m not keen on these sweeping statements about corruption. I would like to hear concrete proof that the met is corrupt rather than one or two incidences which could happen anywhere.

The problem is Annie that, nobody thinks all police officers are corrupt, when a service shows time and time again that a substantial body of its force is corrupt and there are another group of policemen around those who are corrupt who dare not speak-up for fear of what would happen to them if they did then it is very difficult for those who are good and honest to work in those circumstances.

You must also realise that this discussion is specifically about the Met. Your experience is of a smaller police force a very long way from London and i suspect honesty increases the further a police force is from London.

Over 32,000 officers should not be judged by the actions of some,

The Met has always been corrupt. My grandmother had no respect for the police. She grew up in a poor, predominantly Irish area of London and was involved in helping families whose boys had been picked up by the police. Bribery and corruption were rampant then. .

That was 100 years ago. Nothing has changed.

There is a walk to protest about racism and commemorate the two sisters who were murdered at Wembley. The family found the bodies and afterwards the detectives on the case posted photos of themselves with the bodies on social media. The detectives were sent to prison. twitter.com/WEP_UK/status/1526465673307770884
I do wonder though, it's almost as if their training robs them of any humanity or perhaps it is the people they recruit

And it only seems to be teenage girls they strip search, not heard of any teenage boys being strip searched.

The report about the endemic racism, misogyny and homophobia shows how bad it is.

The leadership needs a complete overhaul.

Unfortunately it seems the Met is so corrupt it will take a very long time and skilled leadership to get it back on track.

it is well known that they deal with black teenagers as if they are adults, black adults, ie dangerous.