Pro Queen / anti M&H

What I don't understand is why the Queen (and certain others) always headline the news for positive happy reasons, whereas reporting about M & H is always negative and critical.

Zoejory

To those who think we can't know anything, you're wrong. We can. A bit.

I'm sure loads of rubbish has been written about them. Never believe a word in the press. Etc etc. I agree

However, if you've seen the Oprah interview you can safely state as fact, certain things. Because it's straight out of the horse's mouth.

Up to 17 untruths were said in that interview. As they did keep saying they wanted their truth to be told. Fair enough. However a lot of what was said was not actual truth.

Poor old Justin Welby was almost criminalised. Meghan insisted that her and Harry were married in their garden. They weren't. It was a pointless fib. Untruth. Lie. But such a ridiculous one as well. Welby had to make a statement.

So watch the interview, hear for yourselves and know that, for once, we're hearing what they are actually saying.

Clearly, what they said during the Oprah interview, is what they actually said - that was not my point.

I'm talking about the media, the 'sources close to the family', royal watching pundits, etc.

You cannot deny that the media are constantly headlining M&H - printing pages and pages of stuff about them - sometimes inconsequential information - like a dress Meghan is wearing to some event or other. The tabloids know exactly what they are doing - they are stirring the pot, keeping up the rage. They are keeping the couple in the news because it keeps up the circulation figures.

I've no particular liking for either H or M, so I don't read much about them, and from what I've understood about the Oprah interview, it was ridiculous to make claims that weren't true... immature and childish.

Everyone seems to think they're craving publicity - so why don't the media stop giving it to them!

nadateturbe

I honestly do not understand why so many people feel the need to criticise Harry and Meghan so much. They may not be perfect but which of us is?

Me, of course!
I hope all the RF enjoy the day. I'm sure they will be united and behave with decorum around each other.
We will see.

Support the Queen, respect how she wants all to be fine with her family, do not have to agree with her personal decisions. Andrew and M @ H are one of them.

Whether you liked the programmes she made or not she was successful.

You seem to have forgotten that MM was not only a successful and well paid actor, she had an impressive record of activism and involvement in women's rights and charity work

Totally ignored ! But then she’s American ?

So they’ve “used their royal titles” isn’t that what at all the RF do throughout the ages ? People who are born into it have no choice if they get given some made up title then that’s theirs whatever they do in life. You can say no one would be interested in them if they didn’t have titles but without a title Harry would still be son of a potential monarch and gossip columns and gransnet would still talk about them and analyse their every move and photo. If Netflix or Disney want to pay them money and people watch their programmes then that’s them earning a living. The RF is just a big soap opera for the masses.as proven here with people claiming to know their thoughts, motives , feelings based on nothing but what they read in the papers or see on tv.

To those who think we can't know anything, you're wrong. We can. A bit.

I'm sure loads of rubbish has been written about them. Never believe a word in the press. Etc etc. I agree

However, if you've seen the Oprah interview you can safely state as fact, certain things. Because it's straight out of the horse's mouth.

Up to 17 untruths were said in that interview. As they did keep saying they wanted their truth to be told. Fair enough. However a lot of what was said was not actual truth.

Poor old Justin Welby was almost criminalised. Meghan insisted that her and Harry were married in their garden. They weren't. It was a pointless fib. Untruth. Lie. But such a ridiculous one as well. Welby had to make a statement.

So watch the interview, hear for yourselves and know that, for once, we're hearing what they are actually saying.

nadateturbe

I honestly do not understand why so many people feel the need to criticise Harry and Meghan so much. They may not be perfect but which of us is?

How long have you got? This has been debated ad nauseam on these threads. Lecturing us from their gilded mansion on saving the planet while they fly private jets to baby showers for a start. Trading financially off their Royal titles whilst throwing the family that gave them those titles under a bus etc. etc.

I honestly do not understand why so many people feel the need to criticise Harry and Meghan so much. They may not be perfect but which of us is?

I haven't really followed the Meghan and Harry soap opera, and didn't watch the Oprah interview.

But if, as alleged, the Queen wants them to appear at her Jubilee, then as a grandmother and great grandmother, surely people can understand that? Families have black sheep, they don't always cut them off completely. Especially if there are children involved.

All I know for sure is that H&M will be damned if they do turn up, and damned if they don't. And the media will have a field day attempting to follow their every move if they do attend... and then the editorial staff will write columns about how they are courting publicity...

And the only other thing I know for sure is that I only know what the media tells me it thinks it knows.

If those in the 'print' feel so strongly about H&M courting publicity - why don't they just stop writing about the couple? Then all those that say they are sick of hearing / reading about them, won't have to hear or read about them.

True Maddyone

Whatever Meghan is like or not like, all this would be avoided if we lived in a democratic republic.

Zoejory

*Well at least they aren't sponging off the taxpayer like the rest of them*

Without the rest of them and the taxpayer they would be nonentities.

Without the RF and their titles nobody would be interested. So they are sponging off their family. Or his family.

You seem to have forgotten that MM was not only a successful and well paid actor, she had an impressive record of activism and involvement in women's rights and charity work.
It's small islandism- if she's not from here she can't have done anything

Well at least they aren't sponging off the taxpayer like the rest of them

Without the rest of them and the taxpayer they would be nonentities.

Without the RF and their titles nobody would be interested. So they are sponging off their family. Or his family.

Chestnut

vegansrock

Why in the 21st century should a woman or man have to be subservient to the diktats of their family or that of their spouse whoever they might be? This isn’t the Middle Ages fgs. H and M have got so much flak for not toeing the royal line. Good on them for choosing their own path.

Their own path includes selling their souls to Netflix for millions and using their Royal titles to do so. If they want to go their own way they should give up their Royal titles instead of using them for monetary gain.

Well at least they aren't sponging off the taxpayer like the rest of them.

Wow no wonder some men still think abuse is OK after all if it's good enough for the RF why not for everyone?

If you join a Firm you have employment rights and can choose to challenge working practices you find unacceptable. Firms also have an obligation to permit you to change your hours to fit in with parental duties.

vegansrock

Why in the 21st century should a woman or man have to be subservient to the diktats of their family or that of their spouse whoever they might be? This isn’t the Middle Ages fgs. H and M have got so much flak for not toeing the royal line. Good on them for choosing their own path.

Their own path includes selling their souls to Netflix for millions and using their Royal titles to do so. If they want to go their own way they should give up their Royal titles instead of using them for monetary gain.

Why in the 21st century should a woman or man have to be subservient to the diktats of their family or that of their spouse whoever they might be?

Meghan went out of her way to call the RF "The Firm" to Oprah. Well, when you join a firm, you have to adapt to the way they run things, especially when you're low in the pecking order.

Anyone think she married Harry for his stunning good looks?

Clearly for his intellect GSM

*enemies

The Queen is wise, keep your friends close and your enimies closer still.

She's a manipulative and scheming woman. I don't see things in an old fashioned patriarchal way, I see them for what they are. Anyone think she married Harry for his stunning good looks?

Why in the 21st century should a woman or man have to be subservient to the diktats of their family or that of their spouse whoever they might be? This isn’t the Middle Ages fgs. H and M have got so much flak for not toeing the royal line. Good on them for choosing their own path.

Meghan wasn't made to do things she didn't want to; she chose to leave the country. The Queen also declined to do things she didn't want to, which was to accept terms and conditions laid out by family members who wanted to pick and choose their duties.
Nothing to do with patriarchal abuse.