Boris wins confidence vote

volver

Well that's just bizarre.

There are about 20 notifiable diseases. I don't think adding monkeypox to the list is a plot to sell us to the WHO so they can take our legs off us.

There over 30 notifiable diseases, including food poisoning, measles, mumps and rubella.

www.gov.uk/guidance/notifiable-diseases-and-causative-organisms-how-to-report

It seems somewhat bizarre to me too. I've never heard about threatened lockdowns when there's been an outbreak of measles, although local public health authorities have a duty to launch public information campaigns - quite right!

I've certainly never heard of any threat to amputate limbs as a result of a notifiable disease.

It's surely a positive sign that the government is tracking monkey pox early rather than letting it get out of hand, which it could. We did that with Covid.

Would you travel in a plane if 1/3 of the people the pilot worked with didn’t think he was fit to do the job?

I hold no brief for Boris Johnson, but the man is surely entitled to believe that as 60% of his parliamentary party expressed confidence in him, he would be letting them down if he left.

All public figures and indeed nearly everyone else as well receive criticism at times. Can we really expect people to leave a job they have taken on because under half of those they work with criticise them?

Would you?

volver

Well that's just bizarre.

There are about 20 notifiable diseases. I don't think adding monkeypox to the list is a plot to sell us to the WHO so they can take our legs off us.

There putting out the rumour to deflect from the truth that we're being sold off to the WWF.

Dickens It's not just children and the elderly (unless that's me) who benefit from F2F consultations.

I booked an online consultation about some of my diabetes medication. The GP rang me as promised and said that she really felt she should see me, so duly made a F2F appointment for me.

I attended the appointment this morning and she spent half an hour with me. I walked out with a prescription for fungal toe treatment, having had a full foot inspection and weight and blood pressure checks. I've been booked in for further blood tests and we discussed how spinal compression could be causing the pains I have in my leg and foot - and she promised to see me about it after my op.

The GP talked to me about how I feel about my forthcoming op and how I can be supported. At this point I burst into tears and could have hugged her because this was how GPs used to be and I realised I just needed to be able to talk.

Most of the time I do diagnose/treat myself and use the pharmacy when necessary. I'm reasonably computer savvy and know where to look for reliable information. I'm happy enough to use eConsult and other telephone/online services where they're appropriate, but there really is no substitute for F2F consultations. All the GPs I know chose the role because they want to provide a more holistic, personal approach and they're as frustrated as anybody that they can't. I don't think turning the GP service into a glorified 111/Netflix is going to attract people to fill the 6,000 vacancies.

The TV cameras in at the start of a Cabinet meeting usually show smiley faces, Bozzer cracking jokes, toadies guffawing etc - today it was all sombre, serious and trying to look all business like.

I bet he was looking at each and every one of them trying to work out who voted against him, as surely some must have done.

This means that we have a Prime Minister who has lied to the public, partied whenever he wanted, kicked the British people in the teeth and still expects to govern as no one can unseat him (apparently). No wonder conservatives are leaving the party (tongue-in-cheek) in their droves. I myself am an ex Conservative.

Let him dig deeper holes and give opposition parties time to gather speed!!
If he goes now, who would fill his shoes? Sunak has shot himself in the foot. So, better the devil you know! BJ won’t be there forever .

Don't forget when they are in charge of our health they may well decide that we only need one arm and one leg and they could legally amputate and we could do nothing about it

Did I miss something in all the Bozo hullaballoo?

growstuff

I've been reading some of the policy documents and there definitely is a move to introduce more online/remote services. There's a couple of billion pounds available for "retraining". That includes training staff in GP practices to be like 111 staff and a PR campaign to "retrain" the public not to expect face-to-face appointments.

... hence eConsult. This has been the plan for some time. To wean the public off F2F consultations. Eventually, they will introduce a scheme whereby you can have one, but you will have to pay for it.

There might be occasions when only advice is needed via a telephone call, but many people - especially those with young children and the elderly with complex issues really do need to be seen by their doctor and for him to interact with them.

I hope people who vote back in this bunch realise what they are actually voting for this time...

Well that's just bizarre.

There are about 20 notifiable diseases. I don't think adding monkeypox to the list is a plot to sell us to the WHO so they can take our legs off us.

I think he's hanging on long enough to sign us into slavery with the WEF/WHO. Don't forget when they are in charge of our health they may well decide that we only need one arm and one leg and they could legally amputate and we could do nothing about it. The UK Govt. are already going to make monkeypox a notifiable disease on 8th June. Remember also that even though Boris said there would be no more lockdowns, he still extended his right to call a lockdown.

Let us hope that he is just clinging on while they create a suitable exit strategy and find a replacement for him.

volver

Capital B

I took it to mean that he thinks we have an NHS that used to be the bees knees 40 years ago, but that the world has moved on.

I think he just means it needs to modernise.

I've got it now.

He was referring to a chain of video shops called Blockbuster - old hat in the age of Netflix.

They weren't really on my radar.

I've been reading some of the policy documents and there definitely is a move to introduce more online/remote services. There's a couple of billion pounds available for "retraining". That includes training staff in GP practices to be like 111 staff and a PR campaign to "retrain" the public not to expect face-to-face appointments.

Adam Bienkov didn't get the analogy either to begin with. Maybe he's too young.

twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1534129493845196801?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1534129493845196801%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thelondoneconomic.com%2Fnews%2Ffury-as-javid-likens-nhs-to-defunct-blockbuster-in-the-age-of-netflix-325488%2F

volver

Capital B

I took it to mean that he thinks we have an NHS that used to be the bees knees 40 years ago, but that the world has moved on.

I think he just means it needs to modernise.

All organisations should be prepared to change, but I'm not sure his understanding of "modernise" is the same as mine.

Nannina

They should have waited and called the vote after the bi elections. I’ve heard they’re trying to organise another vote for all MPs. Historically PMs don’t last long after a no confidence vote even if they win

No, all MPs can't vote for the leader of another party.

What has been suggested is that a vote of no confidence in the government could be called. The Conservatives would win hands down because they're not going to shoot themselves in the head.

Last night's vote was about the Conservatives and their leader (who happens to be PM) and can't involve MPs or members of any other party.

Capital B

I took it to mean that he thinks we have an NHS that used to be the bees knees 40 years ago, but that the world has moved on.

I think he just means it needs to modernise.

Whitewavemark2

It isn’t getting any better is it?

“Boris Johnson's spokesman says the Prime Minister will transform the NHS into "a blockbuster health care system in the age of Netflix."

Asked repeatedly to explain what this means, Johnson's spokesman is unable to say which features of Netflix he believes the NHS should imitate.”

What Javid said was that the country has a “Blockbuster healthcare system in the age of Netflix.

The ^^ didn't work, I tried to quote from Whitewave's post

It's meaningless.

volver

Callistemon21

"^Boris Johnson's spokesman says the Prime Minister will transform the NHS into "a blockbuster health care system in the age of Netflix.^"

Isnt Netflix losing subscribers?

What Javid said was that the country has a “Blockbuster healthcare system in the age of Netflix”.

"Blockbuster" with a capital or lower case B?

Presumably what he means is that it's all going to go digital/online.

They should have waited and called the vote after the bi elections. I’ve heard they’re trying to organise another vote for all MPs. Historically PMs don’t last long after a no confidence vote even if they win

luluaugust

Perhaps they do growstuff and that is why they think they understand him.

Far from me to claim that his supporters have low moral standards!

Callistemon21

"^Boris Johnson's spokesman says the Prime Minister will transform the NHS into "a blockbuster health care system in the age of Netflix.^"

Isnt Netflix losing subscribers?

What Javid said was that the country has a “Blockbuster healthcare system in the age of Netflix”.

Perhaps they do growstuff and that is why they think they understand him.