Boris wins confidence vote

Agree Katie59 - he’ll be gone by next election ( if not sooner )
If there’s one thing the tories are good at
it’s surviving. Plus Labour are just not a great opposition at the moment.
If I had to bet I’d put my money on the tories winning the next election despite everything.

Katie59

Going back to 2016 a majority if Tories were remainers, after the referendum they accepted the vote and didn’t rock the boat too much, yesterday was payback time. So now BJ has about the same level of support as Starmer from his own party!.

The vote against BJ was more than I expected but in the short term nothing will change much, Partygate united his opposition but until there is a popular replacement in view he stays and takes the flack for his failings. He will go within a year who will replace him, probably a candidate from the junior level because the senior Tories are all tainted.

I don’t believe that, Those who voted against him were those who could no longer stomach the lies and corruption at the heart of the government. They were a mixture of all factions of the party. Things will change quickly now he can no longer guarantee a majority.

Going back to 2016 a majority if Tories were remainers, after the referendum they accepted the vote and didn’t rock the boat too much, yesterday was payback time. So now BJ has about the same level of support as Starmer from his own party!.

The vote against BJ was more than I expected but in the short term nothing will change much, Partygate united his opposition but until there is a popular replacement in view he stays and takes the flack for his failings. He will go within a year who will replace him, probably a candidate from the junior level because the senior Tories are all tainted.

Smog was smug WWM2 when he was interviewed last night.

The PM had a nasty cold too.........

Mamie

Urmstongran could you possibly define for me what you think it takes to be a member of an elite? I am genuinely struggling to understand what a "remainer elite" looks like and also why you think being an Old Etonian and former member of the Bullingdon Club does not make you part of an elite.

The 'remanier elite' is the one remaining in Downing Street.

Urmstongran could you possibly define for me what you think it takes to be a member of an elite? I am genuinely struggling to understand what a "remainer elite" looks like and also why you think being an Old Etonian and former member of the Bullingdon Club does not make you part of an elite.

I watched Johnson’s reaction to the vote last night, and wondered why he kept sniffing, so decided it must be the start of a cold or hay fever.

Then I read someone asking the question “did you notice his huge pupils despite the tv lights?”

Then it made sense.

Whitewavemark2

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Jess Phillips MP

They are all going to have to swim in his filth now. I wonder if they think he'd do the same for them, they couldn't because they know he wouldn't. He'd sell everyone of them down the river for a funny headline.

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Urmstongran

growstuff

The nation has more important things than allowing the MSM and the Remain elite to manipulate them, destroy the government and return us to the EU, which is what this is all about.

What absolute pure and unadulterated b***x!

Did you get that in a text from Doug?

You really have a nasty streak don’t you?
Quite cutting really.
I bet you were one of the mean girls at school too.

You'd have lost your bet!

Johnson’s reaction reminded me of Trump.

Total denial .

If you discount those on the payroll and thus beholden to Johnson’s on.

7 out if 10 Tory MPs voted against him.

They will vote against his extreme policies in the months to come.
They will react even further when the by election results show how deeply unpopular the Tory party has become.
The final straw will be the select committees conclusion on Johnson’s appalling behaviour showing him utterly unfit for the post.

Johnson will be gone by the autumn.

Anyone who believes Johnson is being attacked by metropolitan elites when he himself and his sycophants are prime examples of entitled metropolitan elites needs to to stop regurgitating out of date and inaccurate soundbites. Of course Johnson will struggle on and refuse to admit there is any thing seriously wrong with his behaviour, until the next crisis.

growstuff

*The nation has more important things than allowing the MSM and the Remain elite to manipulate them, destroy the government and return us to the EU, which is what this is all about.*

What absolute pure and unadulterated b***x!

Did you get that in a text from Doug?

You really have a nasty streak don’t you?
Quite cutting really.
I bet you were one of the mean girls at school too.

Who is that?

Whitewavemark2

Urmstongran

Seems the confidence vote was called too quickly in my opinion. Febrile MPs in a flurry, supporting Hunt. They will be kicking this elves tomorrow morning as Boris is safe for another year.

The nation has more important things than allowing the MSM and the Remain elite to manipulate them, destroy the government and return us to the EU, which is what this is all about.

Naive MPs are being manipulated by the same forces that have been against us since 2016.

UKIP write large.

Or Cousin Doug?

Sussexborn

Urmstongran

Seems the confidence vote was called too quickly in my opinion. Febrile MPs in a flurry, supporting Hunt. They will be kicking this elves tomorrow morning as Boris is safe for another year.

The nation has more important things than allowing the MSM and the Remain elite to manipulate them, destroy the government and return us to the EU, which is what this is all about.

Naive MPs are being manipulated by the same forces that have been against us since 2016.

It has been a trial by the obsessive media which is totally wrong.

Do some of you go out at night and dance on people’s graves?

Fortunately my MP was serving soldier and knows the value of loyalty.

No, it's been the PM's behaviour which has been totally wrong.

Toby Ellwood and Tom Tugendhat were serving soldiers and recognise decent values and honour. Both called for Johnson to resign.

Urmstongran

Seems the confidence vote was called too quickly in my opinion. Febrile MPs in a flurry, supporting Hunt. They will be kicking this elves tomorrow morning as Boris is safe for another year.

The nation has more important things than allowing the MSM and the Remain elite to manipulate them, destroy the government and return us to the EU, which is what this is all about.

Naive MPs are being manipulated by the same forces that have been against us since 2016.

UKIP write large.

Boris surrounded himself with supporting MPs in 2019, the fact that 148 of them have turned against him 2 1/2 years later is telling , this is despite him phoning them all and promising them ministerial jobs ( several have been promised the same job apparently). This is a better result than I thought as Johnson is wounded and we aren’t going to “move on”. Someone needs to ask every single one of his lapdogs why he removed “ honesty and integrity” from the ministerial code.

Urmstongran

Seems the confidence vote was called too quickly in my opinion. Febrile MPs in a flurry, supporting Hunt. They will be kicking this elves tomorrow morning as Boris is safe for another year.

The nation has more important things than allowing the MSM and the Remain elite to manipulate them, destroy the government and return us to the EU, which is what this is all about.

Naive MPs are being manipulated by the same forces that have been against us since 2016.

Why do you think this is some sort of Remainer plot?

Roger Gale, Andrew Bridgen, Andrea Leadsom, Steve Baker and Mark Francois were, and are, all committed Brexiteers - some were members of the ERG group.

They have all called for Johnson to go.

I do agree, though, that they should have waited until after the by-elections, as the Tories are liable to lose both of them.

He got the same support that Thatcher did - she was gone, within a week, after her cabinet turned on her.

He got less support than May, and she was gone within 6 months, as she could get nothing through Parliament.

He's dead in the water really, and it's just a question of how long he can cling on.

This will do Labour a lot of good - a lame duck PM, leading a party, having some sort of civil war, is always good for the opposition.?

Urmstongran

Seems the confidence vote was called too quickly in my opinion. Febrile MPs in a flurry, supporting Hunt. They will be kicking this elves tomorrow morning as Boris is safe for another year.

The nation has more important things than allowing the MSM and the Remain elite to manipulate them, destroy the government and return us to the EU, which is what this is all about.

Naive MPs are being manipulated by the same forces that have been against us since 2016.

It has been a trial by the obsessive media which is totally wrong.

Do some of you go out at night and dance on people’s graves?

Fortunately my MP was serving soldier and knows the value of loyalty.

I think they knew exactly what they were doing. They knew there was no chance of him losing the vote. But he has been badly wounded and the bye elections will wound him even more. Plus there is talk of cabinet resignations. I’m sure that one of his own MP’s today referred to his leadership of being dictator like but I’ve watched so much today I lose track of who it was.

Urmstongran

Seems the confidence vote was called too quickly in my opinion. Febrile MPs in a flurry, supporting Hunt. They will be kicking this elves tomorrow morning as Boris is safe for another year.

The nation has more important things than allowing the MSM and the Remain elite to manipulate them, destroy the government and return us to the EU, which is what this is all about.

Naive MPs are being manipulated by the same forces that have been against us since 2016.

The nation has more important things than allowing the MSM and the Remain elite to manipulate them, destroy the government and return us to the EU, which is what this is all about.

The best-selling national newspapers are The Sun and the Daily Mail. Neither want us to return to the EU.

And no-one in their right mind thinks we will do that anytime soon. If ever. Such a move is decades away and it will be decided long after we're dead and gone. And it would take years of negotiations.

For some of us Remainers - this is about much more than Brexit, which was a means to an end for Johnson. It's about the damage he's doing to our democracy and our international reputation. For now, and the foreseeable future, Brexit is the reality.

I'm not happy about it, personally, but it is what it is. I am far more concerned that Johnson and his government are in the process of becoming a dictatorship. Brexit can wait.

They will be kicking this elves tomorrow morning as Boris is safe for another year.

I'm not sure he's safe - neither Margaret Thatcher or Theresa May were. But why should anyone take it out on the elves !

It isn’t purely remain MP’s voting against him.