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Priti Patel wins legal battle over Rwanda migrants plan.

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Urmstongran Fri 10-Jun-22 19:36:10

Best news I've heard all week.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 11-Jun-22 21:11:35

sarah murphy
@13sarahmurphy
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Thoughts and prayers with the bigots and racists who are incandescent that Brexit hasn’t stopped them from being called out for being bigots and racists.
It hasn’t stopped people seeking asylum here either. And nor will it.

Rage your stony hearts out. We will never let you win.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 11-Jun-22 21:11:12

It occurs to me that if Brexit hadn’t happened we wouldn’t be in this mess.

MerylStreep Sat 11-Jun-22 21:08:42

Oldnproud

Can one person be a gang rapist?

Of course he can, he was part of a gang that gang raped a teenage girl.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 11-Jun-22 21:05:42

Zoejory

metro.co.uk/2018/10/14/man-whose-deportation-was-blocked-by-passengers-revealed-as-convicted-gang-rapist-8036129/

It just shows what a god damned awful mess Patel is making if this whole issue.

The British people are clearly not going to tolerate the transportation of asylum seekers and will make their feelings felt at every opportunity.

Unfortunately Patel has completely clouded the issue by her actions.

MerylStreep Sat 11-Jun-22 21:04:02

VioletSky
I think the EU could tell us a thing or two about slavery.
This article is from a reputable source: Al Jazeera.

www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2017/11/29/how-the-eu-is-responsible-for-slavery-in-libya

Oldnproud Sat 11-Jun-22 21:02:27

Can one person be a gang rapist?

Zoejory Sat 11-Jun-22 21:00:37

metro.co.uk/2018/10/14/man-whose-deportation-was-blocked-by-passengers-revealed-as-convicted-gang-rapist-8036129/

choughdancer Sat 11-Jun-22 21:00:04

silverlining48

I undestand there is no where and no way to claim asylum before turning up on our shores, they have to get here first, and then claim from here. So no person can be illegal until after a claim is denied.
Refugees can choose where they want to go, many speak English, or have connections here. Its hard enough to begin life in a new country but made worse where you dont speak the language fluently.
Putting aside the fact that because for historic reasons the world speaks English, if we were unlucky enough to be fleeing this country, we would choose somewhere to go where they did. We take very few in comparison to other countries, who welcome them but the majority of refugees seek refuge in neighbouring, poor countries which can ill afford it.
How would those ex pats, aka immigrants, who choose to live in other countries feel if they were as vilified. These are people, like us. Just not as lucky.

Well said.

Oldnproud Sat 11-Jun-22 20:59:55

If Britain suddenly became a really bad place to live, whether because of war, disease, famine, climate change or whatever, while my immediate reaction would be to flee to the nearest safe country, having done that, I might have many good reasons for then trying to make my way to another country, just like those people trying to get to Britain might have.

We are all citizens of the world. Stop bring so bloody small-minded, territorial and selfish!

Zoejory Sat 11-Jun-22 20:59:54

This is people power - so beautiful to see

You think so?

Remember this case? I imagine you were cheering when the passengers managed to get Yaqub Ahmed taken off the plane. Let him go they chanted.

He was a rapist. He'd raped a 16 year old girl. It was a gang rape.

People power beautiful to see? Pathetic.

MerylStreep Sat 11-Jun-22 20:55:57

Denmark started talks with Rwanda last year Re migrants.
Not Sweden.

choughdancer Sat 11-Jun-22 20:51:24

Zonne

Refugees are not illegal immigrants.

The way to stop traffickers (and reduce even further the number of illegal immigrants crossing the channel) is to open legal routes with appropriate vetting elsewhere, particularly in refugee camps outwith Europe.

The way to reduce the cost of detaining legal refugees is to allow them to work.

But no, Patel and her ilk just have to blow their dog whistle instead. And, look at that, it works.

Well said.

VioletSky Sat 11-Jun-22 20:50:08

Sending humanbeings to another cpuntry against their will is better than people trafficking?

Sounds like slavery to me

Whitewavemark2 Sat 11-Jun-22 20:46:58

As an antidote to ugs post

A C Grayling #FBPE 3.5% #Reform #Rejoin #FBPA ? Retweeted

Claudia Webbe MP
@ClaudiaWebbe
In response to a Home Office immigration raid, with the power of humanity and solidarity, the people of Peckham, SE15, mobilised, fought back and got their neighbour released.

This is people power - so beautiful to see

Urmstongran Sat 11-Jun-22 20:46:09

We crossed posts WWmk2.
Actually I was replying to BlueBell and as I did it straight away I didn’t anticipate your Twitter insertion.

Urmstongran Sat 11-Jun-22 20:44:31

Well, if the police can't enforce the law then what's the point having laws? Sudan springs to mind.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 11-Jun-22 20:43:57

Urmstongran

Never mind, just call me ‘Ray-cist’ it’s easier for you.
I don’t like it but I can’t stop you.

My post was as a reaction to what I had seen on twitter, interesting that you thought it was directed at you though

Whitewavemark2 Sat 11-Jun-22 20:42:26

RichmondPark

twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1535498919307878401

After a day of reading some of the views on this thread I was feeling pretty downhearted. Then I saw this and it reminded me there are generous-hearted people in the world who will stop at nothing in order to welcome others with open arms and make them feel valued and safe. For anyone else feeling like I did today, I hope this restores faith.

Good stuff. I think that it is a good idea to counteract all the hate with uplifting things people in the U.K. have done that belies all the worst of us.

Urmstongran Sat 11-Jun-22 20:40:56

Never mind, just call me ‘Ray-cist’ it’s easier for you.
I don’t like it but I can’t stop you.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 11-Jun-22 20:40:31

Urmstongran

“Hundreds block vehicle transporting man arrested for immigration offences”
Footage shows around 200 protesters sitting on the ground in front of the Police van in Peckham.

He overstayed his visa. Police turn up at his house this afternoon to arrest him.
But Mob rules it seems.
And so we proceed along the road to being a failed state.

A woman, who gave her name only as Nicola - and who is an activist with the south London arm of Stand Up To Racism, said police "gave up" trying to arrest people at the scene.

“Police tried to arrest a number of activists at the front” she said.

I don’t know why we bother sometimes trying to uphold law & order in this country of ours. “Come one, come all” eh?

Tell that to Johnson, he’s good at upholding the law.

Urmstongran Sat 11-Jun-22 20:39:16

“Hundreds block vehicle transporting man arrested for immigration offences”
Footage shows around 200 protesters sitting on the ground in front of the Police van in Peckham.

He overstayed his visa. Police turn up at his house this afternoon to arrest him.
But Mob rules it seems.
And so we proceed along the road to being a failed state.

A woman, who gave her name only as Nicola - and who is an activist with the south London arm of Stand Up To Racism, said police "gave up" trying to arrest people at the scene.

“Police tried to arrest a number of activists at the front” she said.

I don’t know why we bother sometimes trying to uphold law & order in this country of ours. “Come one, come all” eh?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 11-Jun-22 20:38:31

Michael Rosen ????
@MichaelRosenYes
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1h
Some of us know very well what it's like when a government says that some people are 'illegal' and deports them to another country. 1944: Martin Rosen (Rozen) 'legally' arrested in France, 'legally' deported to a camp in another country. Never seen or heard of again.

RichmondPark Sat 11-Jun-22 20:37:49

twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1535498919307878401

After a day of reading some of the views on this thread I was feeling pretty downhearted. Then I saw this and it reminded me there are generous-hearted people in the world who will stop at nothing in order to welcome others with open arms and make them feel valued and safe. For anyone else feeling like I did today, I hope this restores faith.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 11-Jun-22 20:36:08

In my view everyone applauding what Patel is doing is a racist. Nothing else makes sense.

Urmstongran Sat 11-Jun-22 20:25:10

Ouch. ?