Anti Brexit man silenced

Chestnut

I don't care what his message is. No-one is entitled to assault our eardrums with a megaphone and contribute to the stress and anxiety most people in London must feel already.

Oh, my heart is aching for those millions of stressed and anxious people in London...

He sounds like a professional protester who doesn’t believe in working for a living.

He literally is a professional protestor. This 'doesn't work for a living' thing has already been covered in this thread. Steve has served in the army and is now funding in to campaign full time by crowdfunding.

There's a kind of 'the little man should know his place and keep his nose to the grindstone' energy about those saying he should get a normal job. Thank heavens for people who stand up for what they believe to be right.

MayBee70

I can’t do a link but there’s nothing new about what Steve is doing. Check out Mary Maloney!

My vicarious claim to fame...

I used to work with somebody whose grandfather was the chauffeur to Churchill while Mary Maloney followed him round Dundee with her bell

MaizieD

Chestnut

I don't care what his message is. No-one is entitled to assault our eardrums with a megaphone and contribute to the stress and anxiety most people in London must feel already.

Oh, my heart is aching for those millions of stressed and anxious people in London...

And so it should. I was born and brought up in London and there is no way I would live there now. It looks far too crowded and stressful. I feel sorry for those who have to do their daily grind in that mayhem.

volver

mayisay

Maybe the police feel that after six years, he's made his point, and it's time to move on!

The police don't get to decide that though. Not in a free country. They are supposed to police things by our consent, not by what they want to happen.

The police haven't decided; law has.

He has not been silenced. He can continue his protest for as long as he wants, just not with a megaphone.

Chestnut

I don't care what his message is. No-one is entitled to assault our eardrums with a megaphone and contribute to the stress and anxiety most people in London must feel already.

I agree, Chestnut. Excessive noise about anything is pollution.

Baggs

volver

mayisay

Maybe the police feel that after six years, he's made his point, and it's time to move on!

The police don't get to decide that though. Not in a free country. They are supposed to police things by our consent, not by what they want to happen.

The police haven't decided; law has.

He has not been silenced. He can continue his protest for as long as he wants, just not with a megaphone.

mayisay said that the police feel.... That's not what the police are for. I was contradicting her.

Baggs

volver

mayisay

Maybe the police feel that after six years, he's made his point, and it's time to move on!

The police don't get to decide that though. Not in a free country. They are supposed to police things by our consent, not by what they want to happen.

The police haven't decided; law has.

He has not been silenced. He can continue his protest for as long as he wants, just not with a megaphone.

His point at the moment is that we have a PM and a government that is corrupt and tells lies. Why should he shut up about that. It’s true. Somebody needs to say it. And as for brexit, it’s still the elephant in the room because no one (with a few exceptions eg Michael O’Leary) will admit that it’s causing problems. Everything at the moment is the fault of everybody and everything apart from the people governing this country (eg the rail strike is Labours fault) and brexit can’t possibly be responsible for labour shortages etc. because Johnson said it would be a Titanic success.

He doesn't have to shut up he's simply had his volume turned down.

Joseanne

Does he not have a proper job? He's only early 50s. How does he find the time?

Joseanne iys his fulltime job ,he has a crowd funding page and since all this happened hes got over 6 figures on his crowd funding

His point at the moment is that we have a PM and a government that is corrupt and tells lies. Why should he shut up about that. It’s true. Somebody needs to say it.

Lots of people are saying it.
Mr Bray doesn't need to keep braying about it through is megaphone because the majority of people ignore him, he's just utterly boring.

One of life's eccentrics but a bit quieter now.

Well now he can do it quietly if people are daft enough to enable him.

Callistemon21

^His point at the moment is that we have a PM and a government that is corrupt and tells lies. Why should he shut up about that. It’s true. Somebody needs to say it.^

Lots of people are saying it.
Mr Bray doesn't need to keep braying about it through is megaphone because the majority of people ignore him, he's just utterly boring.

One of life's eccentrics but a bit quieter now.

But he was saying it way before other people were.

The point is that Steve Bray actually tells the truth, something this lying corrupt and incompetent government is trying to outlaw.

The UK gets more and more like 1984. Truth is lies. Lies are truth.

Like other posters I may not like how Mr Bray goes about his protest but defend his right to do so.

vegansrock good point about loud music, noisy neighbours etc. Not much police presence there.

varian

The point is that Steve Bray actually tells the truth, something this lying corrupt and incompetent government is trying to outlaw.

The UK gets more and more like 1984. Truth is lies. Lies are truth.

But who is listening?

He sounds like one of those newspaper sellers who sold their papers in the street - an incomprehensible shout unless you knew what they were shouting!

Actually, that takes me back to fond memories of rushing for the bus home and hearing 'Evenin 'Erald'!

varian

The point is that Steve Bray actually tells the truth, something this lying corrupt and incompetent government is trying to outlaw.

The UK gets more and more like 1984. Truth is lies. Lies are truth.

No, the point is that he is free to protest but he is not free to harass people with loud noise. It doesn't matter what he's saying; the point remains the same.

Agreeing or disagreeing with what he says is irrelevant.

varian

The point is that Steve Bray actually tells the truth, something this lying corrupt and incompetent government is trying to outlaw.

The UK gets more and more like 1984. Truth is lies. Lies are truth.

I'm not arguing about what he's saying, varian

But - is anyone listening to him now?

I hope more and more people are listening to Steve Bray. Callistemon

British people are getting fed up with hearing lies.

They're not listening to him, varian.
He's just an irritating noise who interrupts news broadcasts. Sorry.

They might, however, be emailing their MPS, doing whatever they can to complain.

The noise from Westminster must travel an awfully long way to be irritating so many people….

MayBee70

The noise from Westminster must travel an awfully long way to be irritating so many people….

It's often a strange, incomprehensible background noise trying to drown out the news broadcasts, so yes, it does travel quite far.
But no-one can hear what he's actually saying.

Anyone who is a Londoner will probably agree that after a while background noise becomes part of the scene and we tend to ignore it as we get on with our daily lives. Sirens wailing all the time, shouts about this or that, music coming out of shops, screechy brakes on vehicles, demonstrations, Hare Krishnas banging drums, etc. Most people have no time to stop and listen, we just pass on by.
Perhaps he needs to re invent himself and try something new. After such a long while, although his message may be sound, his delivery if it now has the opposite effect in a fast moving world.

delivery of it