Javid and Sunak have both resigned their cabinet posts….

I'm not impressed by those jumping ship at this very late stage.

Writing long letters of resignation on points of principle and matters of honour - have more respect for delusional Dorries at least she's going down with the ship!

For goodness sake does every discussion of politics have to come around to Jeremy Corbyn. It’s so tedious. Isn’t there enough to say about Johnson on a thread about the current state of the government without bringing Corbyn into it.

It doesn’t matter whether Johnson has autism,ADHD or came from a dysfunctional family. The fact is he has no principles, political or otherwise, his only agenda is himself. He has lied and grifted from an early age and will do anything to survive. He will hang on and hang on because he doesn’t care about anyone or anything and has functioned this way all his life. And people will still continue to defend him. It is unbelievable. The whole bloody lot of them should go, they have all been complicit in his lies and in serving their own interests at our expense. Whitewave is spot on in her post.

Good points about adhd MOnica.

Johnson and Corbyn’s politics are different. Their supporters share the belief ‘the media’ is out to get them.

What a weird period in our history these few years have been.

It is as if the electorate made a collective decision that deceit, immorality, misogyny, racism, unpatriotic behaviour amongst myriad other poor qualities was not important when choosing a leader of our country.

We forgot that the rule of law, both domestic and international matters, and are there to ensure good governance, that playing fast and loose will only trash our reputation in the world and cause domestic unrest and misery to the victims.

We watched as fraud and corruption on an industrial scale took place, by lining friends of the governments pockets with, in some cases useless products and mind blowingly expensive items such as test and trace.

We sat idly by as Russian oligarchs and known spies befriended and bankrolled the government, causing unknown security risks to our country.

Our country became poorer, whilst vastly wealthy government ministers have ensure that they have a finger in our pie by making and breaking our laws whilst failing to contribute a fair amount of their wealth through the U.K. tax system.

What an extraordinary time in our history.

The current leadership procedure in the Conservative Party, ends when the top two candidates go out to party members in constituencies and they vote on them.

I seem to remember that Boris was not that popular among MPs, but the memebership loved him. His bluff man of the people persona, and the feeling that he would be good company in the pub. He won the memebership vote, so the MPs were stuck with him and had to make the most of a bad job.

I think a similar, 'throw it open to our members' election system made Jeremy Corbyn leader of the Labour Party. Perhaps both parties need to sit down and have a good rethink of how to sort out their leadership elections.

Aveline

ADHD would make sense!

It might explain Johnson, but what can you pin on all the suckers who enabled his election despite being warned by everyone who has known and worked with him that he was totally unsuited to the job?

ADHD would make sense!

I have always thought he had ADHD. I have it, as do my DS and DGS and I recognise the signs. However that only accounts for the chaos that surrounds him, his disinterest in detail, the tendency to be constantly on the move, he rarely sits still.

However ADHD does not stop him being honest, being capable of doing the job. It only explains the personal chaos. The same applies to any other neuro diverse features he may have

Moral standards, honesty and responsibility are quite separate from neurodiversity. These are learnt first at home. We know he came from a dysfunctional home, with a father who is amoral as mysoginist as Boris is and the eldest son, often idolises his father and wishes to emulate him. But that is no excuse, he is old enough and ugly enough to be able to see the difference between right and wrong.

Onside!

I have also worked with people with autism and that's one thing I don't think Boris could be accused of having! Up to now his social skills have been amazingly successful. He must be appalled that he seems to have lost the knack of getting people inside right now. I think he's caught 'Trumpism'!

I remember feeling frightened when Trump wouldn't go, I feel more anxious now.

Delusion is scary. If he were driving through a raft of policies that people objected to, I could see the justification for clinging on but as the opposition is almost wholly related to him personally, I don't understand how he can possibly feel justified in brazen in it out.

A good thought J52 but I'm leaning more towards the autistic spectrum. Please don't shoot me down for this, I work with autism and can see many "red flags" in his behaviour. But it is solely my opinion, not an attempt to excuse him.

It might come to that yet Jaxjacky

With his lack of memory of important matters and delusional behaviour, I wonder if he has a dementia type illness.

I think the only way to get him out is to have him sectioned.

It is Trumpian but we simply don't have the same system (thankfully), even though he seems to be trying to turn it into a Presidential one.

It could be that, in the childish fashion of his, he has simply decided to do as much damage to the party before he goes or ... he believes he can win.

And is he blind to the fact that many people have probably changed their minds, just as his colleagues have, because of non-stop revelations?

I think he actually doesn't care because he thinks the universe has special rules just for BJ.

More and more ministers are resigning, yet BJ hangs in there refusing to go. He apparently refers to his huge mandate from the last general election as evidence of the country's support. Is he blind to the fact that many of us voted him in as a vote of opposition to the then Labour leader?

We didn't vote him in but voted Labour out!

He could repurpose himself as a bog brush

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What I don’t understand is, is how can he continue if he can’t put a government together?

The man's deluded! How can he possibly see himself as the Caped Crusader after half his cabinet have told him to go; they don't want or believe him any more? This is narcissism to the nth degree.

Good to see you back Whitewave, hope you're on the mend.

DaisyAnne

It sounds like he isn't going.

So he’s challenging the 1922 committee, saying “do your worse”

He’s apparently pitching it as Johnson and the country? v. The Tory rebels.

It sounds like he isn't going.