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Woke up this morning ... morphing to discussion on Heads of State.

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DaisyAnne Fri 08-Jul-22 08:55:36

Whitewavemark2

Johnson is a security risk to the U.K.

He must not be anywhere near any form of intelligence or security information. I trust the security services are preventing him from seeing stuff, although Patel another security risk (remember Israel?) is overseeing the security services.

The sooner this shower are gone the better for us all.

He is WWM. Hence my hope for where he ends up. He may, but I bet it's for financial reasons if they do get him in the end.

Grammaretto Fri 08-Jul-22 08:47:56

Mind you Dickens be careful comparing with Churchill who himself made a comeback for the war after the "wilderness years"and was not universally liked.

Trump hasn't entirely gone away.
sorry to scare you so early in the morning
Ah I understand about the "wedding now". It's an excuse for a gig at Chequers.

JaneJudge Fri 08-Jul-22 08:42:01

sorry, they are having a wedding party today? at Downing Street??!

Whitewavemark2 Fri 08-Jul-22 08:39:19

Johnson is a security risk to the U.K.

He must not be anywhere near any form of intelligence or security information. I trust the security services are preventing him from seeing stuff, although Patel another security risk (remember Israel?) is overseeing the security services.

The sooner this shower are gone the better for us all.

foxie48 Fri 08-Jul-22 08:38:57

Grammaretto

Whose wedding is it? Angela Raynor mentioned it on Radio 4 this morning. Am I invited?

Nope, just helping to pay for it! Late wedding party for Boris and Carrie because they could only invite 30 to the actual wedding. I still want to know what he was doing in Italy meeting with an ex KGB spy, without his minders, whilst he was Foreign Secretary.

Dickens Fri 08-Jul-22 08:37:01

He's been hoist by his own petard, but is too arrogant to grasp the fact. He positioned the little bomb and now it's exploded in his face.

He ignored the warnings, dismissed the by election results, condemned his critics, ignored the electorate's dissatisfaction with his performance, all the while chuntering on about "getting on with the job" of "delivering" to his ever dwindling "majority".

The man has shown utter contempt for the average citizen and the welfare of the nation as a whole in his relentless drive to become the second Churchill. Brexit was a means to this end. Which is why the very word has almost become toxic if mentioned now that it's "done". Others did the negotiating, he signed the Deal - the easy bit. He wasn't prepared, nor did he care, about the consequences of the biggest change to our constitutional and economic life; nor did, or do, his supporters. The EU is the bogey-man and Brexit is almost a prohibited word.

His resignation speech was little more than "look what they've done to me" - a deliberate rallying cry to his Red Wall and other supporters who are now insisting that ousting him was a witch-hunt.

He spoke about "uniting" the nation after we left, but has done nothing since but stoke the flames of division.

Has he ever in his privileged life reflected on his own behaviour? Does he have an ounce of self-awareness?

He is the embodiment of narcissism. He is the true "Charlie" with whom everyone else is out of step with.

... and he's still there, clinging on to power, like Trump - unable to accept that he's no longer the top dog of the political life of this country.

DaisyAnne Fri 08-Jul-22 08:28:18

I think it's the wedding party they feel they didn't have.

Grammaretto Fri 08-Jul-22 08:19:22

Whose wedding is it? Angela Raynor mentioned it on Radio 4 this morning. Am I invited?

DaisyAnne Fri 08-Jul-22 08:18:36

I always find it interesting to hear Rory Stewarts view.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiaf-UuRr5M

NotSpaghetti I don't think you will be suprised when you listen to RS explain why they couldn't get him to leave the Treasury.

As it seems more like dealing with a gangster, buying him off could well work!

I can't agree Galaxy, I'm afraid. I think if more harm can be done, he will do it.

BlueBelle, I do hope so. The Conservatives deserve no less for putting us through the last few years.

BlueBelle Fri 08-Jul-22 08:04:56

In a perverse way he may do him and his party more harm by staying ….its the old saying give a dog enough rope and he ll hang himself (metaphorically of course)

Galaxy Fri 08-Jul-22 07:57:33

I had champagne last night because he may still be there but hes gone and in a way that has destroyed any 'legacy'. The Tory party will do its thing and we will have a new PM. I was always rather bizarrely quite confident that the Tory party would destroy him.

NotSpaghetti Fri 08-Jul-22 07:56:16

I do wish someone would just buy him off tbh!

NotSpaghetti Fri 08-Jul-22 07:55:47

He won't go till we have (most likely) paid for his wedding reception party.

DaisyAnne Fri 08-Jul-22 07:53:42

It's a bit like that moment when you wake up and realise the dreadful thing you aren't ready for, really did happen yesterday - except in reverse. Bunter didn't leave.

He is still Prime Minister and worse, he has yet again found someone else to blame. He points to "The Herd" - the group of ineffectuals that those being polite still call the Conservative Party. He is having his 'Trump' moment and blaming others for his ejection from power.

No apology, no acceptance he did anything wrong, just hubris.

As it seems the Tories cannot do any more than they have so far managed, to stop this man's destruction of democracy.

We need to have an election.

We need him out, gone and, I would hope, locked up.