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So the Final 2 - Liz and Rishi

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Bea65 Wed 20-Jul-22 16:01:44

Well am not surprised.. Are you? Feel dismayed by the Cons and the awful skullduggery that has gone on..need a glass or 2..hmm

chatterbox2 Thu 21-Jul-22 14:23:38

Vetrep I couldn't agree more

LizzieDrip Thu 21-Jul-22 14:17:48

^Truss says she was inspired to go into politics by seeing “lots of children let down day low educational standards”

She was born 1975. She was educated entirely under conservative governments from primary school to university. 1979 to 1996.^

Good point Lucca!

halfpint1 Thu 21-Jul-22 14:16:36

Most lawyers are a bit 'dull' but why would that matter if they are doing their job well. Surely a 'boring , diligent person as a P M would be an asset. I mean Starmer
The reality show leaders like Johnson and Trump have led us all downwards

maddyone Thu 21-Jul-22 14:11:57

I don’t like or want either of them. The rest of the parties aren’t any better. There aren’t any real quality politicians about in my opinion.

icanhandthemback Thu 21-Jul-22 14:07:53

I think the Tory party are in suicidal mode. Neither will appeal to the electorate.

Vetrep Thu 21-Jul-22 14:06:27

MayBee70

Mamardoit

nadateturbe

Dinahmo

If Truss is PM my guess is that Labour will win the next GE.

PMQs will be entertaining.

I do hope so.
This is too, too depressing.

If they can't win the next GE they may as well shut up shop. As an opposition they have been a complete disgrace. They need a new leader too.

Can you explain why they have been a disgrace?

They have been a disgrace because:
During the crises faced in the past two and a half years, they haven’t come up with one single idea of their own , just complained, complained, complained.
They have been a disparate by partying in a place which was neither their home or their place of work, but somehow that is ok.
They have been a disgrace by planning to ignore the majority and attempt to overturn Brexit.
They have been a disgrace by focussing on transgender crap that most of us couldn’t care less about.
They are a disgrace with no class - just look at Dodds, Rayner and Abbott for a start.
They are a disgrace because they bankrupted the country when last in power, but never accepted any responsibility, just complained about the necessary cuts to recover from their shambles.
God help the country if they ever get in.
COME BACK BORIS - a proper statesman, more intelligence than the lot of them put together.

Ramblingrose22 Thu 21-Jul-22 14:00:38

Truss is devoid of any ideas of her own so if she wins she'd better find decent advisers.

Theresa May's advisers were useless and upset a lot of older voters with their ideas about social care. May knew this but was too weak to assert herself and say no to them.

I agree that Truss would be ideal for the Labour Party as she isn't remotely competent. Sunak may not be either but at least he knows how to sound competent!

Finally, however sincere some people on here may think Jeremy Corbyn was I think he was a mealy mouthed person. He obfuscated over Brexit when he knew he supported it and was an anti-semite too. His other left wing views made him completely unelectable and when BoJo stood as the candidate anyone supporting Brexit in a blue rosette would have been the winner.

This doesn't mean I like the current leader btw. He is deadly d-u-l-l (yawn).

scrapgran Thu 21-Jul-22 13:52:15

Can't stand Liz Truss. She talks alot of rubbish and is so self centred. None of the candidates are worthy to lead our country but Rishi is the most statesmanlike. Keir Starmer must be relishing the next election

kevincharley Thu 21-Jul-22 13:44:37

Yes, I fear Truss will be installed at No.10. But would I prefer Sunak? No!
PMQs will be interesting. Starmer will wipe the floor with her.

polly123 Thu 21-Jul-22 13:36:38

Truss sounds like a Dalek and doesn't allow others to finish their point. Her body language is awful and she is not very articulate. Sunak is slightly better but oh that dreadful video. As for bringing back Johnson.......

nexus63 Thu 21-Jul-22 13:33:56

i have just been reading the glasgow live newspaper online, it seems some mps have been charging there amazon prime account as expenses and one of them is liz truss, not going to look great for her, there is also at least 6 other from the tory, labour and snp parties. we are all trying to cut back, i am sure they could all afford to pay the £79 per year.

Doodledog Thu 21-Jul-22 13:33:40

Nannan2

Another woman would be bl**dy disastrous!(no offence- as i am a woman!) but when we've tried it, it has not worked!- the women we get in don't seem to have either any compassion (Thatcher) or any backbone (May) not like Scotlands Nicola Sturgeon.?

We've had two female PMs, and one First Minister, and how many men? How can you say that because you don't like three people all women would be disastrous?

Grantanow Thu 21-Jul-22 13:16:26

I'm depressed at the quality of our politicians of all major parties and given the state of the country I doubt we have much to look forward to with hope especially with the usual backwoods focus on tax cuts. Climate change and poverty/cost of living need immediate attention and it should not be either/or. And why are so many jobs unfilled when we have lots of immigrants stored in detention centres? Crazy.

BlueRuby Thu 21-Jul-22 13:15:10

They are both Tories ...... both are awful ..... God forbid anything that looks like Margaret Thatcher - I think I might cry ..... Although I do wish the patriarchal Labour party would actually vote in a (real) woman leader. How can we be on the cusp of the THIRD woman Conservative leader and the Labour party hasn't even had one?? Disgraceful. Old fashioned. Misogynistic. I hope the Labour leadership feels ashamed and embarassed. I'm sure Kier Starmer is an honourable and determined Labour person, but we need a visionary, strong and feisty woman leader of the Labour party.

Crystal46 Thu 21-Jul-22 12:56:08

spabbygirl

its like choosing which loo to use after a 3-day festival isn't it?

??indeed!

Nannan2 Thu 21-Jul-22 12:55:24

Truss didn't want Johnson to go?(yet she's rushed to take his job!) So what she going to do then?- just carry out all his ideas & policies and carry on partying?Great just what we don't need.Let's hope, out of the 2 of them, that Sunak gets it then?

Crystal46 Thu 21-Jul-22 12:54:21

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Lucca Thu 21-Jul-22 12:53:24

Truss says she was inspired to go into politics by seeing “lots of children let down day low educational standards”

She was born 1975. She was educated entirely under conservative governments from primary school to university. 1979 to 1996.

Nannan2 Thu 21-Jul-22 12:48:20

Another woman would be bl**dy disastrous!(no offence- as i am a woman!) but when we've tried it, it has not worked!- the women we get in don't seem to have either any compassion (Thatcher) or any backbone (May) not like Scotlands Nicola Sturgeon.?

PamQS Thu 21-Jul-22 12:47:30

Riverwalk

I think we can look forward to Prime Minister Truss, as dire as that sounds!

At least people who are into pork futures will be pleased!

Nannan2 Thu 21-Jul-22 12:41:36

Well at least Rishi seems to like giving money away.....

Doodledog Thu 21-Jul-22 12:28:39

I can't get too invested in it, as I think they are both awful, and neither would have been in with a ghost of a chance if Johnson hadn't rid himself of anyone competent at the start.

If I had a vote, which funnily enough I don't, I would go for Sunak, but only because Truss seems even worse, not because I think he's at all suitable to lead the country. All we can do now is hope that global events don't deteriorate too much before there is a General Election when with luck we can start again with a new regime. I hope it will be a Labour government, but if that's not to be, at least a Tory one with a new and untainted cabinet would stand a chance of getting us through the rest of the decade without total and irreversible disaster.

spabbygirl Thu 21-Jul-22 12:20:10

its like choosing which loo to use after a 3-day festival isn't it?

Dickens Thu 21-Jul-22 12:15:38

RichmondPark1

Truss now saying :-

She wishes she'd supported Leave as 'some of the portents of doom haven't happened'.

The UK's economic policy of the last 20 years hasn't delivered economic growth. This after 12 years of Tory rule, 8 of which have seen her in senior government roles.

She didn't want Johnson to go and that his balance sheet was 'very positive'.

Well - if she thinks she got it wrong by voting Remain, then can we trust the decisions she makes as PM?

Or maybe this is just a desperate attempt to adjust her credentials for the very Brexity Brexiters in the party who might also have doubts about her?

I think it's pathetic. Another one who will abandon any principle for the sake of power... as did / does Johnson.

We're coming back in the same door we went out...

Wheniwasyourage Thu 21-Jul-22 11:26:15

The polls may be wrong, but the bookies have a habit of being right, and they say it'll be Truss. Aargh!!