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I see democracy is under attack again.

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DaisyAnne Mon 08-Aug-22 12:29:27

Guess which Tory Cabinet Minister is telling Tories to resign from the Commons privileges committee that will consider whether Johnson lied to Parliament. The Daily Mail reports Nadine Dorries as saying that Tory MPs "should have no part in this Machiavellian process".

No surprise there. And the same paper is splashing the words "witch hunt", "rigged" and "Kangeroo Court" on its front page.

So when did anyone become above the processes of Parliament? So much above it that some are asking that a Prime Minister, who had to resign because his party no longer had confidence in him, should be protected from the normal events.

There are reasons. Johnson has strongly hinted that he will be back. He could only come back as PM if he is an MP. If he is found to have deliberately lied to Parliament, the committee will advise on a punishment. If that is 10 or more sitting days, and members of Parliament agree, the electorate in his constituency, where he has a slim majority, can recall him and have a by-election.

This outcome seems to be why some Tories and journalists are attacking those involved. Those who have to decide on Johnson's actions are being tarred by Lord Goldsmith. According to the Mail, he has called them the ‘highly partisan, vengeful and vindictive’ MPs.

Of the four Tories MPs they are suggesting are prejudiced, one is Bernard Ingham, a long-time backer of Johnson until he felt forced to say Johnson should go.

The second is Andy Carter, who is a Magistrate.

Third, we have Alberto Costa, a solicitor.

And fourth is Laura Farris who, previous to her parliamentary career, worked as a Barrister.

And they are being attacked by Nadine Dorries! So does she believe her ignorance of the law is equal to their knowledge? She wouldn't be the first Conservative to do so.

MaizieD Mon 08-Aug-22 12:40:25

Apparently Laura Farris has resigned from the committee. She hasn't said why, though.

Costa is an interesting one. He's very hot on 'natural justice'. He felt very strongly that Owen Paterson hadn't been given enough of a chance to defend himself and spoke at length about it in the debate on Paterson.

I have commented on this on another thread. It's not Dorries that I'm worried about, but the fact that the Mail has taken up the story and is, as it did with its 'Enemies of the People' headline, inciting its readers to distrust the institutions of government. Once trust in them has gone, government by consent is lost and we're into anarchy, IMO.

DaisyAnne Mon 08-Aug-22 13:03:24

I agree with you about the Mail. Looking back 80 years does not mean it is the same paper. Nevertheless, it still seems to have the same anti-democratic views.

I am sorry to hear one of them has given up; I imagine the pressure is pretty unpleasant.

Heaven help us.