Only two weeks to go until the end of the Tory leadership contest Only two weeks to go

I think it was mentioned in Rory Stewart’s podcast that Cameron tried to completely change the House of Lords totally undemocratically but I don’t remember what actually happened.

DaisyAnne

If he does stuff the HoL then he is doing the same to democracy, Maizie. Hopefully, there is some convention that can be quoted to stop him. That's very hopefully, though.

The nominations do, apparently, go to some Lords scrutiny committee, but seeing as they turned down Lebedev for a peerage but Johnson did it anyway it seems to be a bit toothless.

Yup, stuffing democracy seems about right...

Yes, indeed.

Annaram1

Sunak is hoping to be the UKs first Hindu PM.

And??

What Whitewavemark2 said.

Annaram1

Sunak is hoping to be the UKs first Hindu PM.

I’m not interested in his faith, his policies is what will make a difference to my life.

Sunak is hoping to be the UKs first Hindu PM.

If he does stuff the HoL then he is doing the same to democracy, Maizie. Hopefully, there is some convention that can be quoted to stop him. That's very hopefully, though.

What happens if Johnson manages to stuff the Lords with new tory peers in his resignation honours list? Do you think the revolting (in the 'revolutionary' sense of the word) old ones will outweigh them?

DA yes I think that is a reasonable assumption, but I also think she will enjoy a honeymoon period, both by the Tory MPs and the right wing press. No doubt we will also see the polls looking much better for the Tories.

How long this lasts is the question.

I'm sure I shouldn't be cheered by this but you have to take possibilities where you find them. This is the last paragraph of today's New Statesman email.

In any case, whether Truss could get her plans through parliament is not certain. Yes, the government has a healthy majority in the Commons, but in the House of Lords, where the Conservatives do not have a majority, convention states that peers do not have to pass bills that weren’t contained in the governing party’s manifesto. Add to that the fact that the majority of Conservative MPs didn’t want Truss to become leader, and the toxicity of the leadership campaign, and Prime Minister Truss might have a tricky return to parliament next week.

Whitewavemark2

Truss has been chosen by neither the Tory MPs (she was not their first choice) nor the country at large, but by a tiny majority of 100000 - so possibly 51000 people have chosen our prime minister. Those 51k are not remotely representative of the country, being white, male, wealthy and elderly.

It is disgraceful.

Do other political parties not choose their leader this way ?
I presume for instance if it was a Labour leader they would be chosen by the party and party members

I see that Johnson is on a farewell tour of Britain, emphasising how good he has been for the country?

Eggs anyone!

Truss has been chosen by neither the Tory MPs (she was not their first choice) nor the country at large, but by a tiny majority of 100000 - so possibly 51000 people have chosen our prime minister. Those 51k are not remotely representative of the country, being white, male, wealthy and elderly.

It is disgraceful.

I find it strange Truss was named as a winner very early on despite doing poorly in the initial selection. Almost as if it was already decided.
I am not a Tory but my choice would be Sunak.

Why do I find myself in Private Fraser mode so often? "We're aa' dooomed"...

It's pathetic. Heaven help up if Liz Truss is elected. Rishi Sunak is not much better, but at least appears to have a brain.

How on earth do we end up with a PM, whose policies ( I use the term guardedly) won’t stand up to a journalists questioning.

Truss will be marmelised by a half decent interviewer and her advisors know it, so she will avoid scrutiny. I can’t understand why Johnson apologists are happy to have a proven corrupt liar in power and think he’s better than anyone shows how low the bar is. Meanwhile, the tories have left this country literally in deep shit.

Why isn’t Truss being door-stepped to ask why she won’t be interviewed by BBC ? This would certainly happen if it was a labour candidate.

MaizieD

Perhaps Elstow could tell us why they think Labour would have been so bad? People frequently come out with that little gem but never explain...

Schools are starting soon, so the kiddies won't have time to post wind-up drivel.

varian

Wendy Chamberlain is absolutely right. Liz Truss is afraid of proper scrutiny. It says something when a Tory leadership candidate shies away from examination by the tame and subservient BBC which has been so kind to their party for too many years

Nick Robinson has a history of being a Conservative activist. If Truss can't face him how would she ever face a neutral or even antagonistic interviewer?

No different to Johnson, hiding in that industrial fridge, before the last election, so that journalists couldn't ask him any questions.

Cowards.

Truss is like the empty vessel theory - makes a lot of noise, but never says much that is meaningful or useful.

Johnson is supporting her because he thinks he can help bring her down, and come storming back as leader.

But, at least we can all cheer that she wants to keep Nadine Dorries in post - we will need a few laughs, with her crazy ramblings, before the next election.?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11158185/Liz-Truss-backs-Culture-Secretary-Nadine-Dorries-post-Tory-leader.html

Is it true that Sunak is now in a leading position ? That is what is being reported here but they often are biased or get it wrong. I don’t like the look or sound of either of them tbh

Perhaps Elstow could tell us why they think Labour would have been so bad? People frequently come out with that little gem but never explain...

Elstow One day you'll wake up and smell the ordure left by Johnson.

There are several GNers who have supported Brexit and then Johnson for a long time and have had a change of heart. Maybe you too will have a road to Damascus conversion?

Elstow

What a pathetic post. I voted for Liz Truss weeks ago but like so many members I would have preferred Boris to stay as PM.
Can't imagine the depth of manure we'd be in now if Labour had been in charge....

You only have to read the Daily Mail as many Conservative voters do, to see the depth of manure that Boros Johnson's government had inflicted on this country.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11155465/Sewage-flushed-rivers-illegal-pipes-latest-pollution-scandal-probe-finds.html