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What's the point of a Prince of Wales?

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volver Sun 11-Sept-22 09:42:53

I believe the Prince of Wales is basically the top bod in the hierarchy in Wales and has been an Englishman since the 14th Century. I understand it is an expression of the rule of the English over the Welsh.

I have googled the role of the Prince and Princess of Wales and it appears to be to visit as many places in the country as possible and learn to speak Welsh. Personally I find the conferring of titles such as this on Royals a patronising anachronism, having once had to explain to a French person that the Duke of Edinburgh didn't really run Edinburgh.

What do Welsh people think about the whole thing?

LauraNorderr Fri 16-Sept-22 18:24:44

?x

JaneJudge Fri 16-Sept-22 18:17:13

LauraNorderr

LauraNorderr

Are you beavering away at badgering us JaneJudge

Hope you weren’t offended by this Jane, it was meant as a joke.

I took it as a joke smile x

LauraNorderr Fri 16-Sept-22 18:14:32

LauraNorderr

Are you beavering away at badgering us JaneJudge

Hope you weren’t offended by this Jane, it was meant as a joke.

JaneJudge Fri 16-Sept-22 18:05:36

and btw I will report and block anyone who Pms me. I have had enough of it

JaneJudge Fri 16-Sept-22 18:05:05

Isn't this bullying?

Sussexborn Fri 16-Sept-22 17:58:24

Chestnut

volver

I think that Alegrias finally understood that trying to be reasonable with some posters was just a waste of time for her, and that some were just so set in their ways that they would never listen to reason. Also that there were some posters who would just try to make her angry for no reason, just because they could. Its a sad state of affairs. I wish Alegrias could just have ignored those nasty posters, but it was not to be.

I'm sorry, but do you realise how that sounds? Maybe not. Other 'nasty posters' won't agree with you, so you accuse them of 'trying to make you angry'?

You seem to think these threads are all about you, and that your views are the right ones, no-one else has the right to disagree, and if they do then it means they are not 'listening to reason'.

Please take a hard look at what you've written, it comes across as problematic.

I thought that came across as extremely arrogant. No point in being on a discussion forum if you just want to listen to your own echo.

Sussexborn Fri 16-Sept-22 17:52:53

Callistemon21

Pantglas2

I’m not surprised your french friend was confused volver they got rid of their royals a long time ago and don’t understand why we haven’t done the same!

Here in Spain they’re a lot more understanding of the concept of non political figureheads having reinstated theirs almost half a century ago after turbulent times.

Oh, the French!
That lot my ersecuted ancestors had to flee to sanctuary in England.

Thank you, England.

And my OH’s family.

MerylStreep Fri 16-Sept-22 17:52:01

Callistemon21

Is this Pendants' Corner or have I lost my way?

The question is was it a general, rhetorical question to all or was it direct address?

Classroom doors anyone. ?

Chestnut Fri 16-Sept-22 17:51:47

volver

I think that Alegrias finally understood that trying to be reasonable with some posters was just a waste of time for her, and that some were just so set in their ways that they would never listen to reason. Also that there were some posters who would just try to make her angry for no reason, just because they could. Its a sad state of affairs. I wish Alegrias could just have ignored those nasty posters, but it was not to be.

I'm sorry, but do you realise how that sounds? Maybe not. Other 'nasty posters' won't agree with you, so you accuse them of 'trying to make you angry'?

You seem to think these threads are all about you, and that your views are the right ones, no-one else has the right to disagree, and if they do then it means they are not 'listening to reason'.

Please take a hard look at what you've written, it comes across as problematic.

Farzanah Fri 16-Sept-22 17:36:46

Nothing changes. Any posts to do with RF end with the troops amassed on opposite sides (of Offa’s Dyke this time) firing off their ???

LauraNorderr Fri 16-Sept-22 16:47:26

Are you beavering away at badgering us JaneJudge

GrannyGravy13 Fri 16-Sept-22 16:28:04

JaneJudge ?????

JaneJudge Fri 16-Sept-22 16:26:13

I have secretly set up the volver's badger appreciation society. So just be grateful badgers were involved and not beavers

volver Fri 16-Sept-22 16:17:43

LauraNorderr

Come back under either name with your good strong, intelligent, robust argument Alegrias/Volver.

Thanks Laura. flowers

Joseanne Fri 16-Sept-22 16:17:21

My mum went for an interview in London for a job in Johannesburg, 1950s, and they got excited when she told them she wasn't English. They babbled away in their language to which she replied "ek kan nie afrikaans praat nie, I am Welsh."
After processing her answer for a minute, they came back with the comment, "That's OK then, you know what it's like to be downtrodden by the English, the job is yours." shock

volver Fri 16-Sept-22 16:16:51

I think that Alegrias finally understood that trying to be reasonable with some posters was just a waste of time for her, and that some were just so set in their ways that they would never listen to reason. Also that there were some posters who would just try to make her angry for no reason, just because they could. Its a sad state of affairs. I wish Alegrias could just have ignored those nasty posters, but it was not to be.

LauraNorderr Fri 16-Sept-22 16:16:33

Come back under either name with your good strong, intelligent, robust argument Alegrias/Volver.

LauraNorderr Fri 16-Sept-22 16:13:18

Yes Aveline firmly in cheek.
I do enjoy the cut and thrust of intelligent argument, occasional sarcasm when justified. I don’t enjoy any thread that descends in to pettiness. Some posters pursue it to the nth degree, the point I was making was that Alegrias didn’t. Volver does.
May I add that I’m surprised that a strong character like Alegrias allowed herself to be driven off but I know the feeling.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 16-Sept-22 16:08:18

This is getting really silly

Aveline Fri 16-Sept-22 16:07:42

LauraNorderr I assume your tongue is firmly in your cheek. If not you'll find that Alegrias is with us.

volver Fri 16-Sept-22 16:06:45

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Germanshepherdsmum Fri 16-Sept-22 16:05:22

That poster seemed to change along with her name Laura. She was indeed all the things you say and is much missed,

LauraNorderr Fri 16-Sept-22 16:02:38

If this going to be a campaign may I plead for the return of Alegrias, I believe she is a scientist, I know she helped us all understand covid, the implications, the vaccine, she saw off the anti-Vaxers with solid and reasoned argument. She is a Scot with passionate pro independence views which again were well researched, well argued and convincing. She always played the ball and not the man, she did not allow herself to be dragged in to petty squabbles and semantics, she would often make a robust and intelligent point and walk away, thereby strengthening her point rather than weakening her argument scoring petty points. I had a great deal of respect for Alegrias and would welcome the return of that poster.

tickingbird Fri 16-Sept-22 16:01:19

volver

How rude

Please somebody, stick up for me.?

I sense a campaign.

Wow! Totally overestimating your importance - again!

Pantglas2 Fri 16-Sept-22 15:55:24

MaizieD

^To make the eldest son of the monarch Prince of Wales started as an insult to the Welsh, a constant reminder that the Welsh are a conquered nation.^

Genuine question.

Is that an accurate and verified historical fact? The 'insult', I mean.

I was taught (by a left wing south Walian history teacher with a republican streak) that it was an appeasement rather than an insult.

The play on words “I give you a Prince of Wales who speaks no English” was to satisfy those insisting they wanted a prince who’d been born in Wales and spoke no English! Be careful what you ask for is the lesson learned isn’t it!

Methinks there are more important things about a PoW than where he was born and linguistics. William had no choice on the former and I don’t doubt he’ll bring his best efforts to the Welsh language as his father did.