Is Liz Truss lying or just ignorant of her own policies?

MawtheMerrier

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representing the UK on the world stage she might look OK but once she open her mouth doesn't bare thinking about,

It might surprise you to know, maudi that most non British people are unable to distinguish regional accents. We all sound the same to them. So I don't think they'd even notice Ms Rayner 's. They'd be far more interested in what she had to say.

As pointed out on HIGNFY last night, Kwarteng has a PhD in Economic History. Which is different.

His thesis was on something about re-coinage in the 17th Century. Which apparently was a disaster!!

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CatsCatsCats

The level of education an MP has doesn't reflect their ability to do their job. Kwasi Kwarteng has a PhD in Economics, for goodness sake!

According to last night HIGNFY his PhD is in Economic History which is not the same thing at all.

CatsCatsCats

The level of education an MP has doesn't reflect their ability to do their job. Kwasi Kwarteng has a PhD in Economics, for goodness sake!

Only 16th century economics

The level of education an MP has doesn't reflect their ability to do their job. Kwasi Kwarteng has a PhD in Economics, for goodness sake!

Imo collapsing pensions in order to give tax breaks to the wealthy should be a resignation issue.

Think I’ll go into town and find a jobsworth traffic warden to chat to.

Oh, and just remembered. John Major has 3 O-levels. He did OK.

bear thinking about.

What was that you were saying about being uneducated?

And Rupa Huq.

This is fun

08:54Whitewavemark2

My post wasn't racist I was stating a known fact about David Lammy and his views. Yes Angela Rayner has done well for herself seeing as she left school with no qualifications but would you in all honesty want an uneducated person being Deputy PM, representing the UK on the world stage she might look OK but once she open her mouth doesn't bare thinking about, she is the Union patsy mouthpiece that's the only reason she is where she is. I'm sure Starmer would get rid of her if he could but the unions are his paymasters also.

If you are talking about rasicm look no further than Rupa Ruq although she has been suspended at least.

The calculation must surely be that releasing the OBR report would have a worse effect on the pound & the markets than continuing with the secrecy & obfuscation. When you look at what the secrecy & obfuscation did to the pound & the markets last week, this truly beggars belief.

James Oh Brien

Normandygirl

Urmstongran
"The best thing I can say about Liz Truss is that she passionately wants the UK to do well. She is fired up with enthusiasm."

She was passionate about remaining in the EU
She was passionate about the environment
She was a passionate republican
She was passionate about centre ground politics when a Lib Dem
Can you see a pattern?
Neil Fawcett said of her-;
" I think she is someone who plays to the gallery with whatever audience she is talking to, and I genuinely don’t know if she ever believes anything she says, then or now.”

Agree with Neil Fawcett. As for passion. What is needed is a passion to get rid of her as soon as poss. If Sunak replaced her it would grant a sense of “safe hands”and a more settled approach. However, what we need is a change of government.

Schools Week reporting that school budgets are to be cut.

Ministers face having to cut £300 million from school budgets next year after the recent national insurance (NI) contribution rise was axed.

Maudi

08:20MaizieD
Ha ha life doesn't revolve around GN although for some it probably does. Just because you post something on here enough times doesn't make it true whether you believe it or not and the same applies to me also. Time will tell if Liz Truss can turn things around I'm willing to give her a chance.

What do you think Starmer and his crew (the uneducated Angela Rayner she's an asset to the party haha, even Starmer agrees with me but he's stuck with her the unions pay the piper) (David Lammy with a big chip on his shoulder about, well I can't say otherwise I will get reported) what do you think they would be able to do now, wave a magic wand, bow to the unions. Dish out benefit after benefit to the work shy. Tax the workers to the hilt.

With regard to your description of Angela Rayner, I don’t know if you saw this but I’d really like you to read it ? It just might make you aware of how far she has come against the odds.

Maudi

44Whitewavemark2

Insults again to be expected I suppose when you have no answers to what Starmer and his crew would do.

My remark was prompted as a result of the underlying snobbery and racism in your post.

Wyllow3

Need less to say my eyes a-lighted on "I have no interest in equality. I think it’s an incorrect policy objective."

... as did mine.

At this time of year, many of us grans have photo's of our GC in their first school uniform, the name of the school blazoned on their sweaters, proudly and innocently clutching their little school briefcases, sporting neat haircuts and (hopefully!) big grins.

Unless their parents and educators teach them to be determined, thrusting and focused students with their eye permanently fixed on the goal of climbing the greasy pole to the top, it's worth thinking about the fact that they will ultimately be considered of little to no consequence to individuals like this policy wonk. They will simply be the "potted-plants" - an endearing label applied to state-educated children by Jacob Rees-Mogg.

I do prefer this individual's brutal honesty though to the mealy-mouthed politician who pretends to care about "hard-working families" as he or she imposes economic burdens on them which means in effect that they will for the best part of their lives run faster and faster just to stay in the same place.

... as long as such brutal honesty is prepared to acknowledge the fact that inequality breeds insecurity, fear and resentment which might ultimately translate into rebellion, insurgency and discontent if the serfs don't quietly and obediently accept their inferior role in society.

44Whitewavemark2

Insults again to be expected I suppose when you have no answers to what Starmer and his crew would do.

The truth said plainly

Gobsmacked twice in 12 hours.

Is this a record?

Sometimes I wonder who the remaining 20% are who think they'll vote Conservative. Then I come on GN and all is revealed.

Maudi

08:20MaizieD
Ha ha life doesn't revolve around GN although for some it probably does. Just because you post something on here enough times doesn't make it true whether you believe it or not and the same applies to me also. Time will tell if Liz Truss can turn things around I'm willing to give her a chance.

What do you think Starmer and his crew (the uneducated Angela Rayner she's an asset to the party haha, even Starmer agrees with me but he's stuck with her the unions pay the piper) (David Lammy with a big chip on his shoulder about, well I can't say otherwise I will get reported) what do you think they would be able to do now, wave a magic wand, bow to the unions. Dish out benefit after benefit to the work shy. Tax the workers to the hilt.

What a charming post.

08:20MaizieD
Ha ha life doesn't revolve around GN although for some it probably does. Just because you post something on here enough times doesn't make it true whether you believe it or not and the same applies to me also. Time will tell if Liz Truss can turn things around I'm willing to give her a chance.

What do you think Starmer and his crew (the uneducated Angela Rayner she's an asset to the party haha, even Starmer agrees with me but he's stuck with her the unions pay the piper) (David Lammy with a big chip on his shoulder about, well I can't say otherwise I will get reported) what do you think they would be able to do now, wave a magic wand, bow to the unions. Dish out benefit after benefit to the work shy. Tax the workers to the hilt.

Maudi has repeated the note story time and time again and has been told time and time again the correct version. There is absolutely no convincing a completely closed mind.

In the meantime I'm a bit surprised at minimal reaction to the story I labouriously c&p'd last night. ☹️

Maudi

Same argument applies to Boris, did Boris cause the Covid pandemic, the Ukraine war and the energy crisis.

But no one's blamed Johnson for the pandemic, war or global hike in energy prices; these events happening when they did were clearly outside his control.

Holding him to account for his response to them is not blaming him for them. Which is exactly what happened to Brown after the sub-prime fiasco - he was grilled by vested interests and the electorate at large for the way he handled the fall-out.

And BTW, it really is a tradition for outgoing incumbents to leave notes for their successors. Some are humorous, some wise and 'friendly' and some, like Byrne's - facetious. Reggie Maudling in '64 (outgoing Tory chancellor), bumping into Jim Callaghan - who was also a personal friend - famously told him "Sorry old cock, to leave it in this shape". WWM2 didn't just make it up.