Eddie Izzard

Some Men are Dangerous to Women.
We Can't Know Which Men are Dangerous.
So We have Single Sex Facilities including Toilets.
That means Males & Females should Use Separate Facilities

^^^

this is simplistic but these are why boundaries need to be in place

Australia seems to have it sorted. We should adopt the same here.

Oh dear, Glorianny your reasoning powers really are failing you.
That isn't what I said and isn't the point I was making.
Others clearly understood what I meant so it's unfortunate that you are having trouble with it.

In hope you'll get it this time:
Some Men are Dangerous to Women.
We Can't Know Which Men are Dangerous.
So We have Single Sex Facilities including Toilets.
That means Males & Females should Use Separate Facilities

The boundaries are set by the signs on the doors. Why bother if the designated sex of the users is optional?

That’s to toilets being closed for celebrities.

Really? Why can’t a celeb queue like everyone else? Or are they too privileged and entitled?

Your argument is too simplistic

JaneJudge

Boundaries are important and blurring boundaries and guidelines will lead to abuse of females. It really isn't that difficult to understand

Eddie Izzard is manipulating circumstances and shouldn't be standing for an MP place if he finds boundaries difficult, of course he has the money though

I don't care for vanilla fwiw but I care for women

What "boundaries"? You've lost me.
The ones that say I have to join a queue of women when there is a man's toilet standing empty? You may if you wish. I'll nip into the gents.

That was to Glorianny btw

you are throwing women under a bus Glorianny, we can't even bring vulnerable women into the discussion

we don't want to be silenced

Crack on. I can’t help thinking it’s making you look rather odd, but if you really think it makes sense, perhaps it’s me.

SueDonim

^a discussion about someone openly, and carefully-no other woman could have entered without knowing Eddie was there-using a female toilet.^

So he was essentially gate-keeping the women’s toilets?? They were closed to anyone who didn’t wish to share a lavatory with a man? What were they supposed to do - piss in a plant pot in a dark corner?

I am so angry at people who encourage women being thrown under the bus like this, still coming bottom of the heap beneath privileged, entitled men.

No one is being thrown under a bus. I believe toilets are often closed when a celeb is using them.

Boundaries are important and blurring boundaries and guidelines will lead to abuse of females. It really isn't that difficult to understand

Eddie Izzard is manipulating circumstances and shouldn't be standing for an MP place if he finds boundaries difficult, of course he has the money though

I don't care for vanilla fwiw but I care for women

Doodledog

*But he raises money and has a charity. And a link with a paedophile. He corresponded with JS for a long time and introduced him into the RF.
You brought in fundraising and paedophiles so I thought it worth thinking about.*

Are you suggesting that the King should or shouldn’t be allowed to use the Ladies, and why? I’m baffled now .

I brought in fundraising when discussing how unnecessary the character assassination was in the article.
FarNorth then linked fundraising to paedophiles. I just carried on the subject.
Paedophilia and Eddie have as less to connect them that Charles and paedophilia.
But if it's OK to bring in to blacken Eddie's name it's OK to use it to blacken Charles.

Good grief Glorianny your fingers must be fairly whizzing around the keyboard, to be making all these posts!

They are open, in the sense of not being locked. Most decent men of my acquaintance wouldn’t use them for the reasons I outlined upthread.

What’s that got to do with Eddie Izzard or the King? This thread is becoming increasingly strange.

a discussion about someone openly, and carefully-no other woman could have entered without knowing Eddie was there-using a female toilet.

So he was essentially gate-keeping the women’s toilets?? They were closed to anyone who didn’t wish to share a lavatory with a man? What were they supposed to do - piss in a plant pot in a dark corner?

I am so angry at people who encourage women being thrown under the bus like this, still coming bottom of the heap beneath privileged, entitled men.

Exactly Doodledog.

a discussion about someone openly, and carefully-no other woman could have entered without knowing Eddie was there-using a female toilet.
It seems to me that the reasons really are being dredged up.

On that occasion everyone knew he was there. That isn't going to happen on every occasion or when other men take his very noticeable lead and do the same.

Btw Glorianny why did you mention going to the men's toilets?
Why is that relevant if Izzard is a woman?

So Izzard/woman in women's toilet is related in what way to Glorianny/woman in men's toilet?

do women pose a violent sexual threat to men in toilets?

Doodledog

Nobody said that EI is, has links with or has been accused of paedophilia. You have claimed to misunderstand analogies before, but I can’t believe you really think that that was what was said or suggested - attacking FN is just a useful diversion from the topic of conversation.

If EI can use the Ladies, so can any man, whether it’s Harmless Henry, Nice Norman or the Dalai Lama. Unfortunately so can Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris. Whether any of them are dressed in a tux or a frock isn’t the point - the Ladies is open to men, and is no longer a safe space.

How is that difficult to understand?

The Ladies has always been open to men. I believe there have been several posts about how husbands/partners etc wouldn't use them.

No I and quite a few other women used the men's, we were thinking of it again at the airport but there was a men's queue. So we were just as dishonest as Eddie.
What’s your point? Two wrongs don’t make a right.

*But he raises money and has a charity. And a link with a paedophile. He corresponded with JS for a long time and introduced him into the RF.
You brought in fundraising and paedophiles so I thought it worth thinking about.*

Are you suggesting that the King should or shouldn’t be allowed to use the Ladies, and why? I’m baffled now .

Rosie51

Glorianny

Rosie51

Glorianny Mollygo after so many posts do you still not recognise there is a difference beween gender and sex?
and do you not recognise that public toilets (and other single sex areas) are labeled by sex not some amorphous 'gender feel'?

As far as I know no one at present checks your sex as you enter a toilet. I realise some might want to try to, but they can't and don't.

No, it's thought that most people will be honest enough to use the correct facility. You obviously agree Eddie doesn't fall into that category.

No I and quite a few other women used the men's, we were thinking of it again at the airport but there was a men's queue. So we were just as dishonest as Eddie.

does King Charles use the ladies toilet as well?

FarNorth

King Charles is a man so just as unwelcome in women's toilets any other man including Eddie Izzard, Glorianny.
I don't know why you seem to be finding this difficult to understand.

But he raises money and has a charity. And a link with a paedophile. He corresponded with JS for a long time and introduced him into the RF.
You brought in fundraising and paedophiles so I thought it worth thinking about.