Eddie Izzard

JaneJudge

having two women accompany you to the ladies toilet when you liked being a transvestite previously could actually point to someone getting sexual arousal and pleasure from the experience - of course it might not..

but never mind shrill women

Autogynaephilia shudder. ?

Wonder if EI put the seat down afterwards or washed his hands.

Glorianny

BlueBelle

I m not choosing a pronoun Glorianna I m just saying he is a man who sometimes likes to dress like a woman he’s not a she he hasn’t been operated on he chooses to swing
( good verb) between the two genders his business but somehow he always has to make it everyone’s business Why can’t he keep it to himself no one needs to know which preference he has this week and he needs to stay out of ladies toilets if he doesn’t want to use the gents he can go in the disabled toilets he just want to be in the public eye and have people talk about him

Well yes he's standing as an MP don't they usually court publicity?

Has he actually been selected as a PPC?

Well yes he's standing as an MP don't they usually court publicity?
Well you’re as confused as him now glorianna because you forgot to call him ‘she’ in that post ?

Blossoming

FarNorth you may not realise this but I am visually impaired and my eyes don’t necessarily see the same things as other peoples. I interpreted the photo wrongly, as I already said.

Blossoming I didn't know that, I'm sorry to hear it.

JaneJudge

can I stand for Sheffield instead? I have much stronger boundaries and I'm actually a woman

If I still lived there I'd vote for you, JJ

As others have said, so did Jimmy Savile and Rolf Harris.
Do you think they weren't so bad then, considering all the money they raised and what fun they were?
It was a good guise.

True Callistemon21, but ‘he’ is unlikely to admit that, and since I don’t ‘know’ anything concrete about Glorianny, ‘his’ visits to male toilets may have seemed perfectly reasonable. That’s for him to decide.
The issue is, males, even a dubious celebrity like IE, should not be in female toilets.

Callistemon21

FarNotth's is not a disgusting post

It's asking why should we excuse wrongdoing just because someone has raised money for charity.

As I said there is no evidence of wrongdoing and the attempts to link gender change with abuse are disgusting.

BlueBelle

I m not choosing a pronoun Glorianna I m just saying he is a man who sometimes likes to dress like a woman he’s not a she he hasn’t been operated on he chooses to swing
( good verb) between the two genders his business but somehow he always has to make it everyone’s business Why can’t he keep it to himself no one needs to know which preference he has this week and he needs to stay out of ladies toilets if he doesn’t want to use the gents he can go in the disabled toilets he just want to be in the public eye and have people talk about him

Well yes he's standing as an MP don't they usually court publicity?

Callistemon21

Glorianny

I have used a men's toilet when the women's queue was long. I almost did it again at the airport last week, but the men had a queue as well. Should I be banned?
As for the article. Eddie Izzard may have millions, but she earned that money. She was one of the first comedians to manage and run her own shows and play arenas so she made more.
As far as being a candidate for Parliament she has a long and successful history of working for the Labour Party, so this is the logical next step
Eddie has also raised thousands for charity running marathons.
By all means criticise the gender choice she has made, but if you have to do so why not acknowledge the achievements of the person you are writing about? If the only way you can garner support is by character assassination it really doesn't say much about your beliefs.

By all means criticise the gender choice she has made, but if you have to do so why not acknowledge the achievements of the person you are writing about?

Why? ?

As others have said, so did Jimmy Savile and Rolf Harris.
Do you think they weren't so bad then, considering all the money they raised and what fun they were?
It was a good guise.

Callistemon21 I find the attempts to link gender change with sexual assault and paedophilia absolutely abhorrent.
Neither of those men dressed as women.
Neither of those men expressed a political opinion or worked for a political party.
Nether of those men expressed any concern for the lack of help for the poor and vulnerable in society.
No one has ever accused Eddie Izzard of any misbehaviour to women or children.
Disagree with his gender views by all means but try to do it reasonably.

I m not choosing a pronoun Glorianna I m just saying he is a man who sometimes likes to dress like a woman he’s not a she he hasn’t been operated on he chooses to swing
( good verb) between the two genders his business but somehow he always has to make it everyone’s business Why can’t he keep it to himself no one needs to know which preference he has this week and he needs to stay out of ladies toilets if he doesn’t want to use the gents he can go in the disabled toilets he just want to be in the public eye and have people talk about him

FarNotth's is not a disgusting post

It's asking why should we excuse wrongdoing just because someone has raised money for charity.

having two women accompany you to the ladies toilet when you liked being a transvestite previously could actually point to someone getting sexual arousal and pleasure from the experience - of course it might not..

but never mind shrill women

Glorianny

I have used a men's toilet when the women's queue was long. I almost did it again at the airport last week, but the men had a queue as well. Should I be banned?
As for the article. Eddie Izzard may have millions, but she earned that money. She was one of the first comedians to manage and run her own shows and play arenas so she made more.
As far as being a candidate for Parliament she has a long and successful history of working for the Labour Party, so this is the logical next step
Eddie has also raised thousands for charity running marathons.
By all means criticise the gender choice she has made, but if you have to do so why not acknowledge the achievements of the person you are writing about? If the only way you can garner support is by character assassination it really doesn't say much about your beliefs.

By all means criticise the gender choice she has made, but if you have to do so why not acknowledge the achievements of the person you are writing about?

Why? ?

As others have said, so did Jimmy Savile and Rolf Harris.
Do you think they weren't so bad then, considering all the money they raised and what fun they were?
It was a good guise.

can I stand for Sheffield instead? I have much stronger boundaries and I'm actually a woman

FarNorth

Glorianny says Izzard is successful & popular & entertaining & raises money for charity .

So were Jimmy Savile and Rolf Harris.

Who would have objected if things had been as they are now and those lovable entertainers had been able to identify as 'women'?

Note : I'm not suggesting anything about Izzard, specifically, just pointing out that we can't know for sure about any man.

FarNorth what a disgusting post. No one has ever suggested Eddie has ever behaved as those two have. She has written openly about what she thought were transvestite feelings and coming to terms with them.
Her political leanings have always underpinned her actions and behaviour.
Your remarks show how some women cannot be trusted to behave in a reasonable way or to present reasonable arguments just as the article does. It also illustrates how weak the argument is. One celebrity uses a ladies loo, she is accompanied by two women who keep watch, so making sure everyone knows. So she's criticised as a danger and as an exhibitionist. If she'd just slipped in of course no doubt she'd be labelled an offender.
If you can't make a point without chucking dirt the point really isn't worth making.

I understand that Izzard is trying to be selected as a Labour parliamentary candidate for Sheffield.

I can't see that being a vote winner... Sheffield has a large immigrant population, which tend to have 'traditional views of male/female roles, and I'm not altogether sure that the long established white Yorkshire population are much more liberal (though it's many years since I lived there and views might have changed.)

FarNorth you may not realise this but I am visually impaired and my eyes don’t necessarily see the same things as other peoples. I interpreted the photo wrongly, as I already said.

There can't be a rule that says 'These facilities are for women and Eddie Izzard'. As soon as one man uses them, then either there is an intruder in the Ladies or they have become Unisex, and any man who fancies going in can use them.

Based on my experience of male friends, colleagues, husband and son, I think that most men would rather not, as they would be well aware that their presence would make women uncomfortable, and knowing this would make them uncomfortable too. Izzard would also be well aware of this. I agree with whoever said that he was marking his territory - literally territorial pissing.

hormonesnomore

Strange how "she" decided to present as a man when "she" visited the middle east not long ago. I wonder why? ?

Oh really? I missed that

How expedient

Yuk ?. I don’t want to share the Ladies with EI.

Publicity seeking.

Strange how "she" decided to present as a man when "she" visited the middle east not long ago. I wonder why? ?

Glorianny

Maybe I shouldn't have been in male toilets -but I have!

Well you would, but fortunately you’re not famous, so no one knew, or evidently cared.
If you want to start a campaign for females to use make toilets, go ahead! ???

Glorianny says Izzard is successful & popular & entertaining & raises money for charity .

So were Jimmy Savile and Rolf Harris.

Who would have objected if things had been as they are now and those lovable entertainers had been able to identify as 'women'?

Note : I'm not suggesting anything about Izzard, specifically, just pointing out that we can't know for sure about any man.

As a born female you have made yourself physically vulnerable being in a male only group space where the males toilet in groups