Liz Truss has told King Charles not to go to the COP27 meeting next month

The usual inflammatory media language; people are 'forced' to spend a night in a hotel when travel plans go awry; often someone is 'kicked out' of a situation when they have possibly been invited to leave. The more dramatic the wording the better as far as journalists are concerned. There has probably been a civilised conversation and a mutually agreed outcome.

Crikey.

(By the way, I'll be "hollering" from now till Kingdom Come. Best get used to it.)

And is the hierarchy of Scotland attending the meeting? Once the Scots get their inderpdndence they can holler all they like. We have a constitutional Monarchy and the Queen was perfection in knowing her role. The only time we knew she did not approve of Scotland becoming independent was when she told them to consider very carefully when they cast their votes. I thought she overstepped the mark then. Be careful,what you wish for. I do not want a Monarch that gets involved in politics. I look forward to the day when Scotland becomes independent and Volver et al are free of us perfidious English people and can bask in their freedom and let us get on with our problems without the advice from our Scottish friends. Whitewater mark is quite capable of being the left’s spokesperson for England.

The few Conservative voters on this board have no defence for the poor standard of the current crop of inept politicians in the government. We are not fools and know that we do not deserve to be in government if this is the best we can do, but the last thing we need is a meddling Monarch and King Charles should have emulated his mother but I am concerned for his future if he thinks he can interfere in government.

But we all know she's Queen Elizabeth 111, in her mind anyway.
If someone had endlessly pointed their finger at me like she did laura Kunsberg yesterday, I would have swotted it away hard .
Charles should follow his own conscience and take no notice of Queen Liz.

Gabrielle56

4allweknow

Anothe COP international conference, in Egypt this time. Hardly had time to get over the last one. Wonder what updates on progress will be given and how many trees will need to be olanted to offset the pollution from all the travel. Have those involved not heard of using video conferencing etc.

Exactamondo raymondo!! It just makes me think they're all having another " jolly" where they just happen to have a few speakers banging on about how the planet's changing and we need to get a grip , after which they all beggar off for a booze up before jetting off home again.........

They're not having a jolly. It lasts two weeks and there are about 40,000 delegates.

You really have no idea and in place of any actual knowledge the only thing you can do is mock.

philoheart

Liz Truss does not have the authority within the constitution to order the King, she may only advise.

How about Jackie Weaver? ?

Lucca

GreenGran78

O the picture Charles looks as if he'd like to give her a punch on the nose! ???

Would that constitute a political statement ?!

It would certainly make an impression on her and put her in her place, preferably on the floor!!

GreenGran78

O the picture Charles looks as if he'd like to give her a punch on the nose! ???

Would that constitute a political statement ?!

4allweknow

Anothe COP international conference, in Egypt this time. Hardly had time to get over the last one. Wonder what updates on progress will be given and how many trees will need to be olanted to offset the pollution from all the travel. Have those involved not heard of using video conferencing etc.

Exactamondo raymondo!! It just makes me think they're all having another " jolly" where they just happen to have a few speakers banging on about how the planet's changing and we need to get a grip , after which they all beggar off for a booze up before jetting off home again.........

O the picture Charles looks as if he'd like to give her a punch on the nose! ???

Liz Truss does not have the authority within the constitution to order the King, she may only advise.

And do you think the view of the government of the day is that there is no climate change, and we don't need to do anything about it?

Actually, anything's possible with this lot.....

The Queen sent an address to the Glasgow COP because she was the host head of state, it’s highly likely that speech was written for her as the the opening of parliament.

As head of state the monarch must convey the view of the government of the day, wether privately they agree or not.

Did she though? I can't stand her but press do tell downright lies! He's probably been 'advised' to tone it down now that he's the actual King?

It's obvious sometimes why we are not making the required progress on countering climate change.

While we think its relevant to ask who was invited, and whether it was protocol to invite them at all, and whether royals should open their mouths; the planet burns.

Somewhere along the way we've got our priorities very confused.

The long and the short of it is that a constitutional monarch should not express political views, especially not if they can be considered to favour party politics.

I would have thought that King Charles or any other royal person could attend COP 27 as long as he did not speak at the meeting or comment upon speeches made there.

As it is apparently being held in Egypt, there are other matters of protocol to take into consideration than whether the King's attendence could be construed as expressing a political opinion. Usually, the visit of a head of state to another country comes about after lengthy diplomatic discussions and I am not clear as to whether a king, has like the rest of us, to wait until he is invited, or whether he can still express the desire to visit a country and then automatically receive an invitation.

I do know that private citizens do not as a matter of etiquette invite royalty. Royalty signify that they would like to visit one, whereupon if any of you should ever receive such a notification, (I certainly don't expect to) you reply that you are greatly honoured and the occasion suggested suits you fine (whether it does or not.)

If indeed Liz Truss was so lacking in manners as to TELL the king anything, I hope he, or a palace official told her nicely that the Prime Minister may ADVISE the sovereign, but not TELL him what he may or may not do.

They happen every year. That's why they have numbers.

I am going to guess you have never attended a large international conference with worldwide importance or you wouldn't be suggesting videoconferencing.

Anothe COP international conference, in Egypt this time. Hardly had time to get over the last one. Wonder what updates on progress will be given and how many trees will need to be olanted to offset the pollution from all the travel. Have those involved not heard of using video conferencing etc.

I'm sure that wasn't the case you can believe anything you read in the medua

The controversy is in Truss's head!

Last year, no controversy about the Queen...

SaraC

volver

I'm going to shout again, apologies in advance.

THE FUTURE OF THE WORLD AND THE ENVIRONMENT IS NOT POLITICAL.

Absolutely Volver! How dare Truss dictate to him!

I totally agree!

Charles may have asked her advice, doesn't mean he has to take it! He is our King FGS, if he can't go where he wants, hold personal opinions on things and voice them if he wishes, then who can. Even as King he is a citizen of this country which claims to uphold freedom of speech, and that should include him.

GO Charles!

We need to get Truss (and her party) out of office ASAP, she's dangerous.

I don't usually comment on political matters, too complicated for my ageing brain, but I was incensed at reading this and just had to put in my two-pennyworth. That's all I'm saying, not going to get into a long discussion about it.

The monarch has his advisors that look at ALL his engagements and invitations and the risk of any controversy or embarrassment is taken into account.

If Charles had wanted to go, he would have gone. He's already stated that he wonky be able to be as vocal about certain things now he's King.

Truss, who finds it tricky to speak a simple sentence, would not have told him not to go.

Why people believe that he's been having a natter with her and she's forbidden him to attend I'll never know.

Lucca

He doesn’t look too thrilled

Can a King have a PM’s bottom smacked ?
That’s what she deserves, so disrespectful, and to be ‘advised’ not to go to something SO close to his heart for such a long time! Disgraceful!

Applegran, thanks for reading the article.

The point here is that Truss has influenced the King - reports differ and media do hype things up.... but her influence has stopped him, as of now, from going to COP27.

This was not his intention, but is exactly what she wants - she is not thinking of the rest of the world, but only of increasing her own power here. She's dangerous.