Are young people turning gay?

Just put the keywords directly into the search box of the Internet with the username doodledog that works fine.

Good luck

Show me how my saying that I don't read comments that make assumptions about me is unkind.

I am not responsible for putting the T in but I am happy for it to be there.

I have never attacked anyone for being under an umbrella without the T, that's their choice and they are still welcome to shelter with me.

Show me where I am unkind and I will certainly chew it over

But my boundaries are my boundaries and I have always said I won't engage with assumptions

Explain to me why I should and I will chew that over too

Oh there are. Unfortunately, the search facility on here is not up to finding them.

People on here know me well enough to realise that I don't say things that aren't true, and anyone who has read these threads for any length of time will be well used to the way they usually end up, and can judge for themselves if they don't remember the thread in question (and your accusations caused something of a stir, if memory serves, so at least a few posters might).

WomblerWombling

What did they do to me Glorianny? Nothing that the police can take action against apparently, just intimidation towards a group of us women who've been meeting in the same place for years and years and are now to intimidated to go to any more. As a fellow lesbian I'm surprised you had to ask.

Here it is.

You’d think anyone reading that might be kind, wouldn’t you?

WomblerWombling

^I'm perfectly entitled to mine and you don't get a vote to take it. No one does^
And yet you feel its perfectly OK for the umbrella to be snatched from over the LGBQs, given to the Ts and then give the LGBQs a good kicking for not joining them under the umbrella. YOU might not care which umbrella you choose violetsky but those of us who worked for years to build that umbrella, felt safe and secure beneath it, are gutted and afraid that it's been snatched from over us. You speak of voting? We Ls didn't vote for this. You speak of inclusion? We're more marginalised and afraid now than ever. You think trans people have something in common with LGB? I'm guessing you're not an L.

I’m just reposting wombles two posts. I can’t see where she told anyone what they should think.

She stated her point of view as a lesbian that she didn’t want to be included under the trans umbrella and then she recounted how a group she belonged to had been intimidated.

Then she got attacked. And a later insinuation of things posted not being true.

Personally I think replies to anyone recounting a intimidating experience should given with consideration of the effect they might have on someone already traumatised by what has happened to them.

(I’ll have to repost the second of womblesposts below)

I hope she’ll feel able to come back.

I'm so used to being told what I think or what I have said by Doodledog that I think I'm fairly immune. Most of what it's asserted I have said is wrong. But I suppose if the only way you can support your own views is to misrepresent someone else's it doesn't say much for the validity of your argument.
I try not to respond too much, that whole way of arguing - "you said", "no I didn't", "yes you did". is too childish for me.
If you care to post any quotes for your assertions Doodledog I will respond, but you won't because there aren't any.

Smileless2012

I agree Lathyrus not a very good first impression for Womble of GN is it.

No, immediately telling another poster they don't know what they must think or mean is not a good start at all.

A Bitchfest? Speak for yourself, Glorianny.

I can see people pointing out contradictions and defending themselves against accusations of lying, gaslighting and so on. I wouldn't say it's a 'bitchfest', but then I don't use sexist language like that.

I agree Lathyrus not a very good first impression for Womble of GN is it.

Glorianny

Lathyrus

Along with ignoring, intimidation and threats, trivialisation is a well- known silencing technique.

It’s shocking than a thread where a new (?) poster opened up about a traumatic experience should be reduced to trivialisation but posters who who don’t want any discussion about the experience she reported.

That isn't really true though is it? The new poster seems to be taking a break while the old hands resort to personal insults as usual.....
Soo we are having a Bitchfest.
I want The Beautiful South to play www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Xo80hR-QfQ

Which bit of my post isn’t true? Silencing techniques are well documented. Nothing I’ve said in that sentence is incorrect.

Or are you insinuating that womble is a fake poster, or that she is telling lies about her experience.
No wonder she isn’t posting again.

Or is it me that you are saying is posting things that aren’t true?

I think we should know exactly what you’re accusing me of here.

Oops. If I didn't believe that all sex should be consensual, why would I have been complaining about the way some transwomen react to being rejected by lesbians on the grounds that they are male bodied?

Glorianny

Doodledog

You are doing it again, Glorianny. Extrapolating your own experiences onto whole groups. You didn't believe me ages ago when I said that lesbians were being abused (and worse) by transwomen for refusing to have sex with them. If you haven't seen it, it doesn't happen.

There you go again Doodledog telling me what I think and what I have said- what's it called??? Gaslighting isn't it???
Isn't that what men do????
For the record (and for the umpteenth time) all sex should be consensual. No one should be forced, coerced or pressured into having sex and silence does not indicate consent.

No, I wasn't telling you what you think. I was reminding you of when you refused to believe me when I told you that transwomen were abusing lesbians who refused to speak to them. I believe it was on the same thread which you also refused to believe that people were being asked by their employers to declare pronouns on Zoom/Teams. You hadn't seen it happen (your very words) so in your view, it was more likely that I must be lying.

Obviously not all of transwomen do this - I don't blame all transwomen for the actions of a few, however many times you say it, any more than I think all men gaslight.

Abusers of either sex gaslight, DARVO and accuse people of saying things they haven't said. I am not doing any of those things. If I

Lathyrus

Along with ignoring, intimidation and threats, trivialisation is a well- known silencing technique.

It’s shocking than a thread where a new (?) poster opened up about a traumatic experience should be reduced to trivialisation but posters who who don’t want any discussion about the experience she reported.

That isn't really true though is it? The new poster seems to be taking a break while the old hands resort to personal insults as usual.....
Soo we are having a Bitchfest.
I want The Beautiful South to play www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Xo80hR-QfQ

Along with ignoring, intimidation and threats, trivialisation is a well- known silencing technique.

It’s shocking than a thread where a new (?) poster opened up about a traumatic experience should be reduced to trivialisation but posters who who don’t want any discussion about the experience she reported.

Ah so many happy memories

VioletSky

glorianny

Bitchfest sounds like a proper 80s Glastonbury with no bright white trainers or techno.

Count me in

Oh yeh! - masses of tie-dye and joss sticks! ☮️ ☮️ ☮️

Glorianny

VioletSky I'm joining you under B. Let's have a Bitchfest!!!

????

glorianny

Bitchfest sounds like a proper 80s Glastonbury with no bright white trainers or techno.

Count me in

Not sure I use the word "hounding"... possibly?

Sure, let's let that be the only thing in that comment that is true.

What's for pudding?

Happy to wash up

Then I really must dash

Unless we are going back to discussing the OP, whether it is a reasonable question and whether people are able to "turn gay"?

Because I know this thread hasn't gone full trans circle yet but it predictably will and I'm not interested in that discussion.

VS
You said,
“None of that is true though.”

So you are saying you’ve never flounced?
Or that you or G by any other name has never made a hounding accusation.
So does that mean that for you, a lie is only a lie when you want it to be?
Obliging world you live in but that message must be confusing for the children.

VioletSky I'm joining you under B. Let's have a Bitchfest!!!

Doodledog

You are doing it again, Glorianny. Extrapolating your own experiences onto whole groups. You didn't believe me ages ago when I said that lesbians were being abused (and worse) by transwomen for refusing to have sex with them. If you haven't seen it, it doesn't happen.

There you go again Doodledog telling me what I think and what I have said- what's it called??? Gaslighting isn't it???
Isn't that what men do????
For the record (and for the umpteenth time) all sex should be consensual. No one should be forced, coerced or pressured into having sex and silence does not indicate consent.

Thanks for dinner

Also, if you think the B stands for bitch, then cool.

Do not see that as a negative if being a bitch means standing up for my morals, principles and boundaries... then I'm a capital B Bitch

I leave threads all the time, not because I'm angry or hurt but because I no longer wish to participate. Sometimes I joke and say I'm flouncing... I'm not. I'm pretty tough tbh

I also announce when I'm leaving social events... does everyone just get up and walk out if you are invited for dinner and you decide to leave?

I also don't read comments that start with assumptions about what I think or mean.

If you want me to read your comments... don't do that?

It's a reasonable boundary

I'm happy with it