Should the Coronation be “slimmed down”?

MaizieD

^Any major event in any city is going to raise money, isn't it?^

Of course it is, volver. And we can't afford to be too sniffy about what the event is. Unless, of course, it's harmful to us.

(Which I realise could start another debate...)

I heard yesterday on the tv that Liverpool is already cashing in on Eurovision with hotel costs increasing dramatically and people having existing bookings cancelled! No doubt the same would happen in London for the coronation. Hospitality was hit very hard by the pandemic and maybe an opportunity to make a quick buck is what they deserve. No-one is obliged to spend their money that way but those who choose to are welcome as far as I'm concerned. If a few businesses and jobs are saved I'm all in favour.

Definitely needs to be a slimmed-down celebration. We've seen enough recently of pomp and pageantry. There's only so often you want to see a load of people who look as if they have just raided the dressing-up box. I read recently that one "slimming down" measure could be that earls wouldn't have to wear their ermine cloaks. Splendid idea and while they are at it perhaps they would like to make a donation of their cloaks now to those who will struggle to keep warm this winter.

I think that 4 hours might be a touch too long. So in that area I'll go for a slimmer version

I watched the Queen’s coronation at our Village Hall and found it a wonderful experience. I think Charles should have the full works otherwise it will just seem cheapskate.

At first I thought that would be a good idea, but the I thought of the gold carriage and all the regalia going to waste - they do draw visitors, and it’s a happy occasion, why not just do it

Definitely slimmed down - better still abolished completely! The funeral was SO ostentatious and costly. "Ordinary mortals" funerals are being slimmed down - no more monuments in graveyards etc. She was just a woman born into immense privilege and unspeakable wealth!

It should be slimmed down, like the rest of the Monarchy. I don't find it uplifting to look at the Monarchy and hangers-on displaying all that wealth in the knowledge that many are suffering in this country at present. I doubt they will be uplifted by this spectacle either. This doesn't mean I think that it shouldn't happen, all that Coronation commemorative paraphernalia will bring in the money for those who feel inclined to splash any cash they have.

It should be slim. An ostentatious coronation at this point with so many people worried about energy bills, food bills and mortgage costs would make me feel sick not uplifted. Maybe it was appropriate after the war when people were already happy and looking forward to the future. But now, with so much anxiety and foreboding (what is this terrible government going to do to us next?), it would be deeply inappropriate. Symbolic meaning does not need ostentation.

Absolutely. Many people are not monarchists anyway, and even if they are, with all the hardship and worry and shortfall in wages etc. it’s an insult to say ‘there’s no money’ Yuen suddenly there is. The royal family are welcome to pay for it themselves or maybe crowdfund for those who want their money to go on that?!

volver

Oh, this is good...

Start with the military,;all those ruritanian uniforms have to be maintained, kept clean and polished. After the Queen's funeral I was told that all the uniforms were used anyway, they didn't cost anything. Can't have it both ways. Same with the saddlery etc.

The splendid horses have to be fed and shod I would expect them to feed and shoe the horses anyway . Otherwise the RSPCA need to know about it.

The souvenirs could raise money if they were pictures of Charles in a gold coach or Charles on top of a hill with his foot in an indentation.

Hiring barriers, hiring toilets, hiring transport to bring in the extra police, security etc. Fair enough. Who's going to pay for the impacts of the policing that won't be done because they've all gone to London for the day?

It is difficult to know how to 'Slim down' as some of the biggest costs are to do with security. A friend of mine was talking about his experiences working in Windsor on child safeguarding as he normally works with vulnerable children. We were talking about the security aspects and he said "If I was a terrorist - which I'm not - I wouldn't have committed an attack in London or Windsor, I'd have done it somewhere where there were few police because they'd all been drafted in to manage the funeral!"

Personally I support the monarchy as being generally good for the country though I wouldn't describe myself as a royalist, just not a republican. I think the spending by those who would take an active part is probably good for the economy and souvenirs will be more significant for a coronation as there is time to market them. The people probably profiting most from the funeral were the florists! If things could be slimmed down I would definitely approve but without any pomp and ceremony there would be few benefits.

Hopefully King Charles' views and concern for the environment will have some effect, though I was sad to hear he had been told not to attend the next climate change conference and truly hope his new status will not result in him being silenced on such important matters!

I never imagined I'd turn out to a royal occasion but in the end my DD and I did visit Windsor to see the flowers the Saturday before. We live fairly near and drove to a village a bit nearer then walked in. The 9Km nearly killed me but probably did me some good and I'm glad I went. Windsor benefitted from our presence as we spend a small amount in the town and I felt a bit more part of it all, though I spent the Monday firmly on the sofa!

It absolutely should be slimmed down people all over the country are facing abject poverty to have all the pomp would be an utter disgrace

Anniebach

So those who choose to watch are mentally ill ?

No, just a bit abnormal :D

He already stated that it will be. He at least has thought about the costs and the people. Unlike Truss.

It's not even just about the money for me - it's simply not good for anyone's health to be stuck in a chair watching something that goes on for 4 hours without a break. I guess it's ok if you're at home watching, but think of all the people in the Abbey who have already had to be in place an hour before it starts. They will all end up with DVT and bladder infections. Even the royal weddings don't last for more than an hour these days - we understand more about health.

So those who choose to watch are mentally ill ?

Slim it back as much as possible. It's unbelievable the amount of money the royal family have
All these castles and palaces etc now inherited by Charles and William. Jewellery inherited by Catherine and her daughter. No tax paid . Get them to sell a few things and feed the hungry and give heat to the cold. Why do they need all those homes?

There is nobody in this world mentally normal who wants to sit through a 4 hour church service, not even if you are watching it on TV! By all means have a bit of gold coach and procession shenanigans before and after, but please don't let it drag on like that dreadful jubilee parade. I think the actual thing including the procession should be over in 2 and a half hours and then if they want to have Ed Sheeran doing a sing-along to make it worth coming out for, fine.

As the Festival of Brexit cost four times as much as the celebrations for the Platinum Jubilee I think we just need to leave it to the Palace to organise and ensure we keep the government out of it as they seem to be able to ruin anything.

I think the coronation and the RF should be pared back.
I’m on the fence as far as how much money a large scale one would bring in.
I’d like to see a simple balance sheet of how much the funeral / coronation cost versus the income it generates.

I think the coronation should be slimmed down. As should the royal family. I admit that I love all the pomp and ceremony but think it inappropriate in the modern world. I love all the dresses I see in shows like Brigerton but that doesn’t mean I’d like to see then in our every day life. Like the monarchy they are no longer appropriate.

I’m wondering if we should be spending another load of money on lavish celebration when it comes to the Coronation. The country is in so much debt already and even tho I love every minute of state occasions should we curb our spending a tad? Just asking

Absolutely yes.

I think we do ceremonials and pageantry better than anyone else. I would happily sit through the whole thing whether it is traditional or slimmed down. Charles will be an excellent king.

The Coronation is good for Great Britain PLC. That's why the Royal family refer to themselves as 'the Firm' .
Big, brash, lots of gold and horses will bring in the tourists and financial rewards.

Sorry but I didn't find the funeral of QE 11 uplifting, far from it. Charles has let it be known that he wants a slimmed down monarchy and I really hope we have a much more slimmed down coronation. With all the financial institutions today saying our economy is unstable, despite the B of E pouring millions into it it would be tone deaf not to.