Will the corruption ever end? Gavin Williamson resigns

The Liberal Democrats are asking for Williamsons knighthood to be removed

Indeed Fanny. Patel seems strangely quiet at the moment.

Maisie

“On that basis Urmstongran, do you subscribe to the Guardian and the Independent too so you get a fully rounded political experience?”

You dont really believe the Guardian is unbiased do you?.

We have an actual Guardian delivered each day. At the weekend we have the i newspaper and the Observer. But I read the Daily Mail on line as well as CNN, Fox News and the Sydney Morning Herald. I assume I get an assortment of opinions. For television news we watch BBC, Sky and Aljesera (sp).

Ladyleftfieldlover

We have an actual Guardian delivered each day. At the weekend we have the i newspaper and the Observer. But I read the Daily Mail on line as well as CNN, Fox News and the Sydney Morning Herald. I assume I get an assortment of opinions. For television news we watch BBC, Sky and Aljesera (sp).

I read Gransnet, get every side of the argument

Katie59

Maisie

“On that basis Urmstongran, do you subscribe to the Guardian and the Independent too so you get a fully rounded political experience?”

You dont really believe the Guardian is unbiased do you?.

Of course not, that wasn’t what was said, but you need to read a selection of papers from all political persuasions to get a rounded picture.

Tizliz

Ladyleftfieldlover

We have an actual Guardian delivered each day. At the weekend we have the i newspaper and the Observer. But I read the Daily Mail on line as well as CNN, Fox News and the Sydney Morning Herald. I assume I get an assortment of opinions. For television news we watch BBC, Sky and Aljesera (sp).

I read Gransnet, get every side of the argument

😄 including some you don’t want.

Katie59

Maisie

“On that basis Urmstongran, do you subscribe to the Guardian and the Independent too so you get a fully rounded political experience?”

You dont really believe the Guardian is unbiased do you?.

Nice of you to pick me up on something I didn't say, Katie59.

MaizieD

Katie59

Maisie

“On that basis Urmstongran, do you subscribe to the Guardian and the Independent too so you get a fully rounded political experience?”

You dont really believe the Guardian is unbiased do you?.

Nice of you to pick me up on something I didn't say, Katie59.

😄

PMQs

Starmer wiped the floor with Sunak - again.

Sunak just isn’t any good is he?

No, he isn't much good but he's not natural PMQ material and I have sympathy for him.
Compared to so many in his party he seems a decent man at heart and is out of his depth not waving but drowning. In these awful appointments he's obvs trying to bring together both sides of his warring party and to keep trouble-makers inside the tent. That was too ambitions and has failed, but not an unreasonable aim given that his two predecessors had quite rightly been slated for cronyism.
But how do we get from here to a GE?

PM is obviously a bad judge of character. Williamson is a nasty piece of work and manages to get rewarded with a knighthood for being a failure BUT Remember Williamson is the holder of many many secrets concerning the corrupt BJ. Tories are doing well shooting themselves in the foot.

Has there ever been a time when we hold our politicians in such low regard?

Whitewavemark2

“Gavin Williamson will pick up £16,876 in severance pay for lasting exactly TWO weeks in government (plus £2,589 in gross pay).

As it's the third time he's been sacked/ forced to quit govt, presumably he's done quite nicely out of taxpayer.”

He has said he won't take it! Good!

Oh Winterwhite, you are so naive.

Sunak wanted to be different from Johnson, but so far he's struggling

link.news.inews.co.uk/view/626bacc9f2d729fb4f0ca9c2hn5u8.x7j/b2381e93

He's been sacked/forced to resign by three successive PMs. As Oscar Wilde didn't quite say, once is unfortunate, twice is careless and three times is rank incompetence.

NanKate

What was he knighted for?

Because he was the one who opened the door of the foreign secretary's office without knocking while the minister was in, er, conference with one of his young staff members.

Curiously the initials of the foreign secretary and those of the the nature of the conference were the same.

LadyHonoriaDedlock

He's been sacked/forced to resign by three successive PMs. As Oscar Wilde didn't quite say, once is unfortunate, twice is careless and three times is rank incompetence.

This made me smile - for which I thank you.
Lady left field lover, the news consumption here )until my life changed recently) was the same as yours. I’m getting back into my stride, so far it’s The Guardian, channel 4 news, DM on line (bit of balance) and radio 4, 7-9 am, radio 5 in the morning, back to 4 at one o’clock then again at 5pm
I’m aiming to be tough enough for CNN and Al Jazeera, well as soon as I can be (for those who don’t know, I’m recently bereaved )

LadyHonoriaDeadlock "Curiously the initials of the foreign secretary and those of the nature of the conference were the same"

Tickled me up! 😅😅😅

Dear, oh dear.

“Sir Gavin Williamson faces being stripped of his knighthood, as Rishi Sunak admitted he regrets making him a Cabinet minister.

The former minister without portfolio resigned on Tuesday night after a series of accusations about his alleged threatening behaviour towards MPs and civil servants - including that he told an aide to “slit your throat”.

Now, he could lose his knighthood after being referred to the Forfeiture Committee, which is part of the Cabinet Office and has the power to withdraw honours in specific circumstances.”

Source : The Telegraph latest.

I don’t hold out much hope upon reflection.
Sir Phillip Green from Top Shop and Arcadia group kept his gong didn’t he after those millions in pension assets were stripped.

lovebeigecardigans1955

Has there ever been a time when we hold our politicians in such low regard?

Is anyone asking why a minister would be so exasperated at an aide or civil servants? I am interested in the power struggle between the elected government and the bureaucracy. It’s so easy for the msm to exaggerate and falsify information but it’s surely only guess work? What exactly was the dynamic between the minister and his civil servants which prompted such an over reaction?

ronib

lovebeigecardigans1955

Has there ever been a time when we hold our politicians in such low regard?

Is anyone asking why a minister would be so exasperated at an aide or civil servants? I am interested in the power struggle between the elected government and the bureaucracy. It’s so easy for the msm to exaggerate and falsify information but it’s surely only guess work? What exactly was the dynamic between the minister and his civil servants which prompted such an over reaction?

There were no civil servants involved in the exchange with Wendy Morton, who was Chief Whip at the time. What about Anne Milton's allegation? No civil servants were involved either. The former deputy chief whip said: "I do remember him asking me to give the MP in question the cheque, and he waved it under my nose and said, 'make sure when you give him this cheque he knows that I now own him.'”

He has support among the general public, unbelievably.

According to one of his fans, Westminster is a 'woke' world. Speaking "strongly" to subordinates in order to "get things done" should not be regarded as bullying.

... it's just your ordinary, everyday management-speak I guess, where telling someone to slit their throat and making vague threats to people with expletives is just, you know, the way professionals talk to their 'subordinates'...

How far some people will go to defend the indefensible - even making the victims the villains, and the villains the victims!