Football in Qatar

nana8
The British aren’t exactly virtuous, come to that
Glasshouse’s spring to mind. At least we haven’t tried to wipe out our own citizens.

Smileless2012

Didn't watch the match but it looks as if Harry Kane wore his arm band.

No, he wore an alternative one that said No Discrimination.

Grantanow

It's all about money. Football is a business and investors and players make big money. Lots of money for various 'ambassadors'. Not surprising UK teams won't be wearing the One Love armband as it might cut them off from making money. Qatar is a big investor in the UK so our government won't want to upset the Qatar big wigs. End of story.

I agree

I did watch the match
I don't think Harry Kane wore the armband.

Didn't watch the match but it looks as if Harry Kane wore his arm band.

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I think if we get into the next round there will probably be more flags around.

I just realised yesterday the difference between this World Cup and the last. Went for a walk and the way back is past lots of houses. I saw one festooned with England flags and actually even thought, "oh, what's that for?

Totally different from last time

I'm VERY glad to say.

The Iranian Team were very brave not singing their National Anthem before the match in a protest against Khomeni’s brutal regime and his morality police.

I hope that their families at home will not be penalised.

Is there anything to stop the fans from wearing armbands etc? Or will they be arrested for it? I know it’s not going to happen but I’m having fantasies about England winning the tournament and doing a full on protest. Or maybe doing so if they reach a point where they’re going to be eliminated.

MayBee70

Grantanow

It's all about money. Football is a business and investors and players make big money. Lots of money for various 'ambassadors'. Not surprising UK teams won't be wearing the One Love armband as it might cut them off from making money. Qatar is a big investor in the UK so our government won't want to upset the Qatar big wigs. End of story.

I donty think it’s about the money: it’s the yellow card threat that’s caused the problem. FIFA are a disgrace.

I don’t think it’s about the money, it’s about the game - teams want to do the best they can because it matters to them and their millions of followers.

It wasn’t just England and Wales that were intending to wear the one love armband, at least five other Countries Captains were going to.

FIFA declared that there wouldn’t be a fine for wearing it but a Yellow Card which would mean that players would be unavailable for games further into the competition.

Grantanow

It's all about money. Football is a business and investors and players make big money. Lots of money for various 'ambassadors'. Not surprising UK teams won't be wearing the One Love armband as it might cut them off from making money. Qatar is a big investor in the UK so our government won't want to upset the Qatar big wigs. End of story.

I donty think it’s about the money: it’s the yellow card threat that’s caused the problem. FIFA are a disgrace.

There are so many countries that don’t consider human rights. If they were all ruled out then we would only be left with parts of Europe and parts of America which is just not practical. The hope is that they might learn from more compassionate countries but I wouldn’t hold my breath. The British aren’t exactly virtuous, come to that. They have a terrible history.

It's all about money. Football is a business and investors and players make big money. Lots of money for various 'ambassadors'. Not surprising UK teams won't be wearing the One Love armband as it might cut them off from making money. Qatar is a big investor in the UK so our government won't want to upset the Qatar big wigs. End of story.

The voice of the poor is not heard. Those with money cover up things. Money does talk, but it's a lie.

But the football associations from those along with six other nations today announced they were not willing to risk "sporting sanctions" in defence of the principle.

So the principle was never that important then? So many hypocrites!

GrannyGravy13

Kim19

Think I heard somewhere that a brewery is one of their sponsors?

Yes Budweiser is one of the main sponsors.

Oh, the irony! 🍻

But money talks
All the time, everywhere.

And then I read on today’s news,

England and Wales have said their captains will not wear OneLove armbands at the World Cup in Qatar because they could face an instant yellow card for doing so.
England's Harry Kane and Wales' Gareth Bale were among players from a number of national teams that were due to wear the armbands as a gesture of solidarity with the LGBT community, in a country where homosexuality is punishable with up to three years in prison.
But the football associations from those along with six other nations today announced they were not willing to risk "sporting sanctions" in defence of the principle

I agree with all the reasons given on GN for why the tournament should never have been allowed to take place in Qatar.

Do you think the evils of Qatar will be less publicised if we win or given greater prominence if we lose?

It's not only three. I know someone who worked out there and they could see apartment blocks being built from their window. They were really upset that the labourers working in the blazing sun died and were dragged away and replaced.

It's not Islamaphobia. It's human rights.

I’ve just listened to a Muslim lady on Jeremy Vine show this morning. She was ranting about it being Islamiphobia because people are quite rightly upset about the lack of human rights in Qatar. She claimed only three migrant workers have died in Qatar building the stadiums. Is this what Muslims really think? That it’s just Islamiphobia?

I know absolutely zero about football, but surely there should be human right rules for countries taking part? So each country needs to adhere to rule 1, rule 2, rule 3 whatever they are. And if they can't sign on the dotted line then they can't take part.
Is that so difficult?

I watched that programme about foreign building workers dying from kidney failure caused by being made to work in extreme heat, which is actually against the law of the land.

HousePlantQueen

This world Cup is proof that money talks. I hope that Budweiser sue the Qatar officials for millions, it is beyond hypocrisy to accept sponsorship from a brewer and then not allow sales of their product. I forecast the tournament being a failure despite or maybe because of all the money thrown at it. As a PP said, there is little public interest as far as I can see, no flags on cars or sales of the usual supporter tat.

It’s not a failure, nearly 3 million tickets have been sold, and there’s worldwide coverage. It’s the biggest football tournament in the world, and regardless of all the politics around it, the fans will still watch - it’s not their fault that terrible political decisions have been made, the football will still be important to them.

This world Cup is proof that money talks. I hope that Budweiser sue the Qatar officials for millions, it is beyond hypocrisy to accept sponsorship from a brewer and then not allow sales of their product. I forecast the tournament being a failure despite or maybe because of all the money thrown at it. As a PP said, there is little public interest as far as I can see, no flags on cars or sales of the usual supporter tat.