Meghan Markle Faced 'Disgusting and Very Real' Threats in the U.K., Former Counterterrorism Head Says

VioletSky

It's not my fault I have massive fan club hanging off my every word

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It's not my fault I have massive fan club hanging off my every word

But what is clear from the trailer is the shot of all those press photographers had nothing to do with H & M and them being hounded by the press.

They weren't there, they hadn't even met. Why not show a situation when they were being hounded? When there were loads of photographers there just to photograph them? Why attempt to 'prove' something has happened with a lie?

Stormystar I agree. People form opinions based on what they see and what they hear. When the media reports on what they say and do which casts them in a bad light, they have no one but themselves to blame.

Until we actually see the series, we won't know if Harry was complaining about the historical press intrusion with previous girlfriends or with him and Meghan. It's not always clear with a trailer.

Many folks will watch this documentary and not question whether or not those lenses were focused on and harassing the Sussexes, hence backing up their story.

But GG13 that's how it works. That's how adverts work.

growstuff makes an excellent point, when she asks if people think Basu was making things up. Some people on this thread definitely do think he's "on the side" of the Sussexes and has a hidden agenda, and was just exaggerating what was going on. Others have said that everybody in the public eye gets these threats, and she should just have had a stiff upper lip like other Royals have had.

When it comes to M&H, its all just a soap opera, like growstuff said. But if the public can be brought to such a sense of hatred for a couple that the right wing press have decided are fair game, who's next? Looks like its Albanians right now.

But if you speak up, you're a "Meghan supporter". If I say that she's not as bad as she's painted, then there could be a storm of people telling me I'm anti-Royal, what else would I say, I've been taken in by the lying pair. If I was to say they are attention seeking and saccharine, I could be accused of changing my tune and not seeing how bad they really are.

The whole thing's toxic, there's no acceptable middle ground for some people.

“Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive”. when you act dishonestly you are initiating problems, and a domino structure of complications, which will eventually run out of control, Megan and Harry are sowing the seeds of their own destruction

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

It is the visual implications of those stills that say this is part of our story

As for The Duchess’s repeated claims that Archie and Lilibet were not Prince or Princess due to the colour of their skin, perhaps she should do some research on the British Royal Family and who is and who is not entitled to be a Prince or Princess.

It is the accumulation of all the little untruths that add up to a couple who are economical with the truth

It's lazy, bargain basement editing. It's one of the first Alamy stock photos which comes up if you Google "paparazzi".

I agree it’s lazy growstuff

Many folks will watch this documentary and not question whether or not those lenses were focused on and harassing the Sussexes, hence backing up their story

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

growstuff

Are people suggesting that Neil Basu was lying when he claimed that there had been "disgusting and very real" threats? Apparently, people were actually charged. If that was all a fabrication, it's very serious.

PS. I couldn't care less about family feuds.

I have not disputed these threats, and I should add that if there have been convictions relating to them I am extremely grateful.

OK. Thanks for the reply. So you agree that there were threats? That's all I wanted to know. I couldn't give a damn about all the soap opera stuff.

If Mr. Basu said there were threats I believe him.

Unfortunately so many folks in the public eye receive threats some are nothing more than talk others are real and dangerous to them and their families.

GrannyGravy13

It is the visual implications of those stills that say this is part of our story

As for The Duchess’s repeated claims that Archie and Lilibet were not Prince or Princess due to the colour of their skin, perhaps she should do some research on the British Royal Family and who is and who is not entitled to be a Prince or Princess.

It is the accumulation of all the little untruths that add up to a couple who are economical with the truth

It's lazy, bargain basement editing. It's one of the first Alamy stock photos which comes up if you Google "paparazzi".

GrannyGravy13

growstuff

Are people suggesting that Neil Basu was lying when he claimed that there had been "disgusting and very real" threats? Apparently, people were actually charged. If that was all a fabrication, it's very serious.

PS. I couldn't care less about family feuds.

I have not disputed these threats, and I should add that if there have been convictions relating to them I am extremely grateful.

OK. Thanks for the reply. So you agree that there were threats? That's all I wanted to know. I couldn't give a damn about all the soap opera stuff.

growstuff

Are people suggesting that Neil Basu was lying when he claimed that there had been "disgusting and very real" threats? Apparently, people were actually charged. If that was all a fabrication, it's very serious.

PS. I couldn't care less about family feuds.

I have not disputed these threats, and I should add that if there have been convictions relating to them I am extremely grateful.

It is the visual implications of those stills that say this is part of our story

As for The Duchess’s repeated claims that Archie and Lilibet were not Prince or Princess due to the colour of their skin, perhaps she should do some research on the British Royal Family and who is and who is not entitled to be a Prince or Princess.

It is the accumulation of all the little untruths that add up to a couple who are economical with the truth

Are people suggesting that Neil Basu was lying when he claimed that there had been "disgusting and very real" threats? Apparently, people were actually charged. If that was all a fabrication, it's very serious.

PS. I couldn't care less about family feuds.

Volder

To anyone in general:

There's a picture of some newspapers and I believe that neither Meghan nor Harry are in those newspapers.

There's a picture of some sort of parade and I don't believe either Meghan or Harry were there.

Is that more lying?

On the balance of probabilities yes!

To anyone in general:

There's a picture of some newspapers and I believe that neither Meghan nor Harry are in those newspapers.

There's a picture of some sort of parade and I don't believe either Meghan or Harry were there.

Is that more lying?

Meghan is estranged from her birth family, and no-one knows why; she gives no information about the reasons. Her choice.
She and her current husband were speedily estranged from his family, and all sorts of insinuations have been made, with scant evidence to back them up, but all portraying Meghan as victim. She is helped by the fact that the royal family rarely respond to innuendo. The allegations continue but are losing impetus because they have become wearisome. Unlike some of the lurid and oft-repeated accusations made on here concerning family relationships, by their very nature one-sided because they are anonymous and impossible to verify, it is possible to investigate accusations against the royal family when made openly because they are rarely alone.
Thus tantrums over tiaras and tights, pressurising staff and private marriages, have all been investigated.

OK Joseanne Sorry.

Oreo

Two things about this thread.
The first is that Netflix using a Harry Potter premiere to demonstrate the paparazzi hounding H and M , when at that point they hadn’t even met, is showing that Netflix are happy to include lies if it sells films and by association so are H and M.
The second’s this thread’s becoming The VioletSky thread.It seems to happen a lot.

And there's me thinking it was the Joseanne pile on thread. I'm gutted!

Fgs Volver please get off my back.

Ask him what a storyboard is.

It is fine to use the Chelsey Davy shot in the story GG13 because the whole progression is looking through Harry's past life from what I can see from the trailer. It's the Harry Potter shot that is wrong.
Yes, I like picking apart cinematograph minutaie (living with someone who was in the industry).

Two things about this thread.
The first is that Netflix using a Harry Potter premiere to demonstrate the paparazzi hounding H and M , when at that point they hadn’t even met, is showing that Netflix are happy to include lies if it sells films and by association so are H and M.
The second’s this thread’s becoming The VioletSky thread.It seems to happen a lot.

GagaJo

volver

I expect they sat down with the video editors and trailer-makers from Netflix and said something like:

^We've been trawling Alamy and here's a picture of lots of paparazzi for you to include in the trailer. I know that the subjects of a documentary don't get involved in creating the adverts for it normally but we'd like to do it just to upset some Grans on a website in the UK.^

The critiques of anything to do with M&H in the media on GN could put any media studies students to shame. The minutiae that is picked and pulled apart is just sad really. I'd say it's sad because it's people we've never met, but it'd be just as sad if it was people we knew in the flesh.

They have taken the $’s to tell their side of the story …

I am not pro or against them, I can read and see what is in the press both here and abroad (online or TV News) and it’s not looking favourable for them I’m afraid.

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

The Sussexes have been caught out fabricating events yet again.

One of the shots showing the press pack hounding them is actually taken from a Harry Potter Premiere, before they even met.

(There is a link on the other thread provided by MerylStreep )

I can't be bothered watching the trailer. What exactly has been fabricated?

There are two shots one of a battalion of press all with cameras aimed at allegedly the Sussexes which is in fact from a Harry Potter Premiere before they met.

There is also a still of Prince Harry with his hand blocking the photographers shot which is portrayed as being when he was with The Duchess when in fact it was a photo of him and Chelsey Davy.

As is often quoted in GN, its all in the optics and these optics are misleading as they were both pre the Duchess and not part of her story

Quite fancy it actually, if it had been available. But I don't live in California. Guess I could do it by Zoom.