Buckingham Palace Aide resigns

She doesn't have to act the way you want her to.

Humour.

That's what's missing when we are subjected to discrimination. We should all paste on a jaunty smile and pretend it doesn't matter.

I think she looked great

Has anyone said she didn't?

The one that set this off was the lady that made the comments. Not the person they were aimed at

Sorry, but if this crass comment had been deflected with grace and humour and perhaps a complaint made to the Palace, we'd all be talking about what really matters - violence and discrimination of all kinds against women and girls of all races worldwide.

For anyone who dislikes links:

First Lady of Sierra Leone Her Excellency Dr. Fatima Maada Bio in the early hours yesterday November 28, 2022 arrived in London on a Special Invitation to Buckingham Palace from Her Majesty The Queen Consort Camilla

The Sierra Leone First Lady, who is globally recognised for her work on protection of Women and Girls, has been invited to join the British Queen Consort at Buckingham Palace in marking the ‘UNITE to End Violence against Women’ campaign.

The ‘UNITE to End Violence against Women’ campaign is an initiative of the UN-supported “16 Days of Activism against Gender-Based Violence”

The 16-Days activism is an annual campaign that begins on 25th November, the International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women, and runs through to the International Human Rights Day on 10 December

As part of such activism, Her Majesty Queen Consort Camilla will host Her Excellency Dr. Fatima Maada Bio and other distinguished global personalities at Buckingham Palace to discuss these issues.

And other women of prominence who are concerned about the growing violence against women in all parts of the world.

What we should be angry about is the derailment of this global event.

GagaJo

It was about recognising people that do good work in the community, which this lady did.

But basically, the pro-royal opinion is that racism is to be accepted in the royal family?

The one that set this off was the lady that made the comments. Not the person they were aimed at.

But of course. The Black person always has to shoulder the blame for white racism.

Oh you are a nasty piece of work aren't you. I have not seen anyone identify themselves as "pro-royal" in this conversation, nor have I heard anyone say racism is acceptable.

I have seen people say the idea put forward of what we must all accept as racism is extreme in itself and that one set of opinions cannot be imposed on other people. But no one saying racism is acceptable wherever it comes from.

I actually find your last comment racist. But then you know that don't you.

Apart from anything else, it can be a matter of 'it ain't what you say it's the way that you say it'. It could have been said kindly and with an enquiring smile rather than rattled out as series of demands as reported.

Chestnut

^Are you seriously suggesting ‘western style’ is the order of the day?^
Hello, where did that come from? No-one suggested that!

No, of course not.
They can wear whatever they like
Here's the First Lady of Sierra Leone arriving in London and a photograph with other people at the event.

www.ayvnewspaper.com/news/on-invitation-from-buckingham-palace-first-lady-dr-fatima-maada-bio-arrives-in-london/

It was a far more important world event than Ngozi Fulani and her hurt feelings.

Oh dear, now it has been shown on the French evening news.

lemsip

Nexus you say, 'the 'transcript' of the conversation was dreadful,

yes * the transcript* of a very long conversation, remembered word for word... Or Not remembered but recorded.

I would be able to remember a conversation that long. If it was indeed recorded, it can't be disputed. Nobody made Lady Hussey say what she did.

Callistemon21

DaisyAnne

I agree that neither has come out of it well, but one ended up losing their job and the other used it to further some sort of vendetta on a certain group of people. I'm not sure they actually both got their just deserts.

You're right.

I do feel sorry for Susan Hussey.
We don't know that if she did have a habit of opening mouth and putting her foot in it but I doubt that as she must have learned her trade from the late Queen who never made such gaffes.
We won't see her in public again.

We will, I expect, see Ngozi Fulani more often now her profile has been raised as she will presumably be invited on to discussion programmes, Breakfast TV etc.

I do wonder if we will see more of her. I am sure there will be more of her rise from dancer to Independent British Domestic Violence Advisor, and Entrepreneur.

This is a lady said to have a net worth of $1milllion. Although that is obviously not relevant -a bit like some of the facts about Lady Susan are not relevant - she would make an interesting subject for the Sunday's I would have thought, and they are not bothered by relevant.

Chestnut Why should she make her hair more "Western"? She was born with black, curly hair and there's nothing wrong with dreadlocks.

Nexus you say, 'the 'transcript' of the conversation was dreadful,

yes * the transcript* of a very long conversation, remembered word for word... Or Not remembered but recorded.

Iam64

Nightsky2

growstuff

Elegran But she wasn't wearing "national dress".

It certainly wasn’t western style dress was it. She wanted to be noticed, why else would one go to BP dressed like that.

I expect Ms Fulani gave a lot of thought to her outfit. Just like every other woman in that room. Are you seriously suggesting ‘western style’ is the order of the day? It isn’t 1950, though some comments on this thread make it feel like that

Maybe Ms Fulani doesn't own a tweed skirt, a cardi and pearls.

Iam64

The question was why else would anyone go to bp dressed like that.

Because she liked the clothes and thought she looked good.

Nightsky2

growstuff

Elegran But she wasn't wearing "national dress".

It certainly wasn’t western style dress was it. She wanted to be noticed, why else would one go to BP dressed like that.

How do you know what she wanted? The fact is that you don't. I agree with Glorianny. There are people who wear flamboyant clothes every day. They're not usually my style, but they suit some people. I think she looked great. If you look at pictures of people (mainly women) at the convention, they were wearing all sorts of different clothes. I don't even know what you mean by "Western style". It was a pinafore dress over a T shirt with lots of costume jewellery - all Western style. Or do you mean her dreadlocks?

Nightsky2

growstuff

Elegran But she wasn't wearing "national dress".

It certainly wasn’t western style dress was it. She wanted to be noticed, why else would one go to BP dressed like that.

Perhaps she wears such outfits everyday. There are women who do you know

Callistemon21

Surely Ngozi Fulani wasn't seeking attention?
😲

Good question.

The question was why else would anyone go to bp dressed like that.

Are you seriously suggesting ‘western style’ is the order of the day?
Hello, where did that come from? No-one suggested that!

nexus63

why do people call her an aide? she was one of the queens ladies in waiting and a very close friend, she is an 83 year old woman who has been around the royal family long enough to know better, the transcript of the conversation was dreadful, even if you think that in your own head, you do not say it or treat someone that way.

Transcript of the conversation? As the Queen said, recollections may vary.

Nightsky2

growstuff

Elegran But she wasn't wearing "national dress".

It certainly wasn’t western style dress was it. She wanted to be noticed, why else would one go to BP dressed like that.

I expect Ms Fulani gave a lot of thought to her outfit. Just like every other woman in that room. Are you seriously suggesting ‘western style’ is the order of the day? It isn’t 1950, though some comments on this thread make it feel like that

Normandygirl

Looking into the whole reception, it was an event attended by people and charities from all over the world including the first lady of Sierra Leonne, the Queens of Belgium and Netherlands, the Princess of Denmark etc. The question of where they were from was a natural one given the wide diversity of the event, were they supposed to be able to tell just by looking at them? The first Lady of Sierra Leonne was asked questions about the native outfit she was wearing and didn't seem to find the question offensive at all.
It seems we can't even have genuine curiosity about each other anymore, it's disheartening as the vast majority of people don't have racist intentions. It's fast getting to the point where people are afraid to talk to each for fear of being labelled. It won't unite us and it won't make the world a better place. All very sad.

I was thinking the same. Ms Fulani may have been born here but her hair and clothes were not obviously western. Therefore it was logical to assume she was born elsewhere. Lady Hussey could have asked more politely but I don't see that asking someone where they originate from is racist or abusive. Surely your heritage is something to be proud of. If I asked someone what their heritage was it would be because I was interested. After all, mostly white Europeans have lived in the UK for many centuries, so we can assume that black people originated elsewhere. Is it wrong to be interested in them? I agree we are now unable to talk to each other without fear of offending.

growstuff

Elegran But she wasn't wearing "national dress".

It certainly wasn’t western style dress was it. She wanted to be noticed, why else would one go to BP dressed like that.

why do people call her an aide? she was one of the queens ladies in waiting and a very close friend, she is an 83 year old woman who has been around the royal family long enough to know better, the transcript of the conversation was dreadful, even if you think that in your own head, you do not say it or treat someone that way.

In my opinion, if Ngozi Fulani had been dressed in a similar outfit to Susan Hussey, the aide would still have asked where she really came from. If a person is used to being deferred to because of their royal connections it will be a challenge to meet someone who refuses to defer. Times are achanging and royal connections are not what they used to be.