Buckingham Palace Aide resigns

One can be British and of African origin.
Of course they can be both, but she was adamant she was British.

And her being ashamed of her origins is just something the racists have cooked up in their twisted little brains.
No-one said she was ashamed of her origins, just that she was unwilling to reveal them. That is the whole issue, that she was offended to be asked her heritage!

One can be British and of African origin. And her being ashamed of her origins is just something the racists have cooked up in their twisted little brains.

Seems it's just not Hussey who is a bit hard of thinking.

(You can all have a go at getting me angry and saying nasty things about me as much as you like. It's not working )

volver

Oh dear.

Anybody better able than me to explain the cultural history and meaning of their hair for people of African origin?

Hang on, didn't she make it very clear she was British. Her origin was something she wanted to keep quiet about and was offended to be asked about it.

PS: I'm sure no-one could possibly be better able than you to explain something for the plebs.

DaisyAnne

GrannyGravy13

Privilege comes in many guises.

The cleverest going to Universities

The sportiest winning Olympic Medals

The prettiest being more popular

I was trying to think where, in the world, that is any different. I'd love to look at how they make it work.

Privilege tends to favour the already privileged

Pascal
You say that nothing much has changed 20 years on.
20 years ago we wouldn’t have been having this conversation.
And a lady of the royal household wouldn’t have been asked to leave a convention at the palace due to her comments to a black woman.

GrannyGravy13

Privilege comes in many guises.

The cleverest going to Universities

The sportiest winning Olympic Medals

The prettiest being more popular

I was trying to think where, in the world, that is any different. I'd love to look at how they make it work.

Has anyone been to see the William Kentridge exhibition at the RA...

I hadn't heard about it and will look it up. Thanks

Gagajo
Molly, I'm quite capable of finding your misquote and referencing it again.
Here, in this misquote (you move my original words around) you highlight white over black.
If you don't want it to come back at you, don't misquote me. And don't try to change my meanings.

Sorry if I have confused things further Gagajo

Mollygo

Madgran77 the
You may prioritise white privilege. I certainly don't. quote was from GagaJo.

Who is prioritising "white privilege" Mollygo?

I don’t know, certainly not me, but GJ put out the accusation.

Oh sorry Molly I didn't realise, and misunderstood, I thought you were saying that! Oh dear, getting confused here! Apologies.

I’ve tried to stay out of this, but before the thread is full, I have to say something.

It’s absolutely irrelevant how nice/old/deaf etc etc etc anyone is, asking a black person who has told you they are from somewhere in Britain where they are really from is racist.

And this, by writer Alex Andreou, sums up the institutionalised racism that underpins the sort of justifications this thread is full of:

“The arguments advanced in defence of “poor, old, deaf” Hussey and “wicked, manipulative” Fulani precisely confirm the underlying complaint: there is a constant and entirely unwarranted assumption of benign motives for white people and suspicion of malice by anyone “other”.”

Well you certainly enjoy an argument.
We'll never agree on this. It's a much more nuanced situation than just plain and simple racism.

GagaJo

Mollygo

GagaJo
Let's make it even clearer. White people are already very wary of engaging with people of colour because of cries of racism. It can end up in a life or death situation.

It's a response to your misquoted statement Molly. I'm not dim. I'm used to proofreading misquoted plagiarism.

You may prioritise white privilege. I certainly don't.

Molly, I'm quite capable of finding your misquote and referencing it again.

Here, in this misquote (you move my original words around) you hightlight white over black.

If you don't want it to come back at you, don't misquote me. And don't try to change my meanings. Discuss, argue, as much as you like.

Madgran77 the
You may prioritise white privilege. I certainly don't. quote was from GagaJo.

Who is prioritising "white privilege" Mollygo?

I don’t know, certainly not me, but GJ put out the accusation.

Has anyone been to see the William Kentridge exhibition at the RA... allabout racism. I spent a year working as a volunteer in Hermanus in 2000 after Mandela had been freed and Desmond Tutu had setup the Truth and Reconciliation Courts and I was truly shocked at how openly racist many whites still were. It appears from this exhibition that these deeply entrenched views have not changed much even 20 years later. We all need to be courageous and stamp on any signs of racism, homophobia and any predudice as soon as we see it. Desmond Tutu and the Dalai Lama wrote a book together about joy,compassion and just accepting everyone forwho they truly are... and boy do we need it nowadays...

Mollygo

You may prioritise white privilege. I certainly don't.

Who is prioritising "white privilege" Mollygo?

I didn't get the impression that is what Glorianny was saying and neither was I.

Oh dear. Again.

There are many white people who are underprivileged. White privilege means that white people, on average, have an easier time than non-white people in the same situation. It doesn't mean all white people are privileged and all black people aren't.

volver

The whitest being accorded most respect?

I don't think you really understand what white privilege is, GG13

I totally understand what is meant by white privilege volver

I was just pointing out that there are many other privileges

I doubt if the white youngsters in some of the so called sink estates in the U.K. consider themselves to have white privilege far from it.

White Privilege is becoming an insult amongst some on GN and elsewhere.

Allsorts

I think Susan should go for constructive dismissal.

If she went in front of an industrial tribunal, she'd lose for making overtly racist comments, in front of a witness.

There are two "somes" in the paragraph. Three might be a bit excessive. Just goes to show take a sentence out f context and you change the meaning.

I wasn't trying to change the meaning. "Some" older people still seems relevant to me, but no matter

The whitest being accorded most respect?

I don't think you really understand what white privilege is, GG13

Privilege comes in many guises.

The cleverest going to Universities

The sportiest winning Olympic Medals

The prettiest being more popular

You may prioritise white privilege. I certainly don't.

Madgran77

*I didn't realise white privilege was still so entrenched in older people*

some is relevant here!

There are two "somes" in the paragraph. Three might be a bit excessive. Just goes to show take a sentence out f context and you change the meaning.

Touching their head or hair is considered offensive by many people, so she would have been better to ask Ms Fulani to move it if she wanted to see the name badge. It would have been useful, too, if the badge has been clearly visible to start with, then she would not have been tempted to move the hair (it was presumably there so that she would be identifiable to others, she didn't need to be reminded herself who she was)

I didn't realise white privilege was still so entrenched in older people

some is relevant here!