Do we believe him? Not Celebrity likely!

Yet another Politician who was in Politics for everything he could get, and now he’s a so called ‘Celebrity’.

Some people have no shame or conscience.

What happened to taking responsibility? I don't care who advised him to do what - he was being paid (in money, status and the promise of one day being eligible to go on reality TV endurance tests to humiliate himself for cash) because he was supposed to make the decisions.

He made huge mistakes that cost people their lives, and the buck should stop with him. I could excuse him some of that using words such as 'unprecedented', 'world beating' and 'protective ring', but I won't forgive him for giving contracts to his chums - that can not be excused, and he should, IMO, be held to account.

What happened to taking responsibility? I don't care who advised him to do what - he was being paid (in money, status and the promise of one day being eligible to go on reality TV endurance tests to humiliate himself for cash) because he was supposed to make the decisions.

^ This. ✔️

I think everything that can be said about “I’m a Celebrity “ has been said already though.
It’s his next move -rewriting history- in an attempt to rehabilitate himself which I wanted to discuss.
There’s a clear pattern of deflecting blame, changing the subject, and moving the emphasis ( people like Chris Whitty’s opinions on where the virus originated, for instance.)
This is clearly orchestrated and planned out.

The man has no self awareness. I find him irritating at best.
Bet he was a right snitch as a schoolboy.

It's his next move .....Which he wouldnt have found so easy to achieve if people hadn't voted for him on IAC.
He used it as a barometer to plan his next step.
Now he knows no one really cares about what happened, so he can re write history whatever way he likes.
Who will really challenge him?

Urmstongran

The man has no self awareness. I find him irritating at best.
Bet he was a right snitch as a schoolboy.

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What happened to taking responsibility? I don't care who advised him to do what - he was being paid (in money, status and the promise of one day being eligible to go on reality TV endurance tests to humiliate himself for cash) because he was supposed to make the decisions

"when you are a minister, the buck stops with you"

I feel Hancock, Vallance, Whitty, Professor Ferguson (he of the worst case and stratospheric modelling figures - remember the ‘500,000 deaths’?) all deserve to be strung up from the nearest lampost. Anything less and they've gotten off lightly.

My friend in Yorkshire nursed her terminally ill husband of 60 years at home and when the ambulance came in the last few days she walked beside him on that gurney, kissed him and knew she’d never see him again. Covid rules doncha know? And then a funeral with hardly any mourners and their elderly friends don’t ‘do’ internet so a Zoom attendance wasn’t on the cards. Her sister attended but they couldn’t sit close together in the church. It was heartbreaking to have her phone me as she was enduring this pain,

So bugger off if you don’t mind, Hancock - who ‘just happened to fall in love and I’m only human’. Jeez. This man will stop at nothing to reinvent himself.

Fool me once and all that ...

I feel Hancock, Vallance, Whitty, Professor Ferguson (he of the worst case and stratospheric modelling figures - remember the ‘500,000 deaths’?) all deserve to be strung up from the nearest lampost. Anything less and they've gotten off lightly.

That's a terrible and unfounded thing to say Urmstongran. Maybe somebody needs to explain "modelling" to you again.

I take most of what Halfcock says with a pinch of salt but I'm inclined to believe him when he says Johnson, referring to Covid, said it would go away. Typical Johnson cavalier attitude. And that the Cabinet shrugged when he passed on Prof. Whitty's estimate of 820,000 deaths if no action were taken. We owe a debt to Whitty and his expert colleagues for speaking truth to power and, I for one, do not denigrate their contribution to saving many lives.

Calling him stupid names doesn't add to the debate.

We owe a debt to Whitty and his expert colleagues for speaking truth to power and, I for one, do not denigrate their contribution to saving many lives

I agree Grantanow. Goodness knows where we’d have been without the scientific community during the pandemic. Thank God for Whitty, Valance et al - far more trustworthy than Johnson, Hancock and the other idiots in power at the time!

I agree too. The scientists may or may not have been right, but they had no vested interests and did not make political decisions that led to countless deaths.

I get the feeling there is something slightly wrong with him.He doesn't quite get it and thinks the only thing he did wrong was have an affair which was really ok because he fell in love.
I wonder what Gina sees in him and how long she will stick around.He has no thought for wife or kids.

I get the feeling there is something slightly wrong with him

I don't understand him at all.

From disastrous and rather drippy Health Minister, although the Cabinet would be making decisions jointly after taking advice, to a determination to be jungle hero, doing well and gaining stars to feed everyone, then behaving like a teenager in lurve without regard to his ex-wife and children.

How dare he place the blame services.

No surprises there, though.

Oh bah!
I know what I meant.

The blame lies with the entire Cabinet, not just one man.

I will reserve judgement until the publication of the Covid Enquiry

Grantanow just saw your name for Matt.