Breaking News. an armed 'met' policer officer. guilty of rapes

AGAA4

The problems in the Met have been there for a long time. My DH was a policeman who was at the miners strike. Many forces were called in and were appalled by the behaviour of some met officers.
It was in the papers about their arrogance setting back relationships with the police.

This post could have been written by me AGAA4. My OH was also a police officer during the miners strike, and his force contingent dreaded the Met coming up because of the trouble they caused.

My father retired 2 years before the miners strike, after 33 years in the police. He was as disgusted by the behaviour of the met officers as he was by Scargill.

At his funeral about 10 years later, several of his former colleagues talked about the damage caused to relations between the public and police caused by the met police behaviour. That generation had all fought in ww2. They identified with the miners as hard working men. One commented he felt it would take a generation or more for trust in the police in former mining areas to be re-established.

My grandmother was born and brought up in Bermondsey in thelate 19th early 20th century. She had nothing but contempt and distrust for the metropolitan police even then.

She was Irish and worked with her parish priest to help to secure the release from police cells of young boys picked up by the police for the most trivial of offences and treated appallingly while in police cells.

Name and shame officers who let Garrick stay in his job says Mina Smallman whose two daughters were murdered in a London Park. She now campaigns for women’s safety. The police watchdog says it will not be investigating any officers or staff. Surely all involved should be answerable?

The police watchdog says it will not be investigating any officers or staff

What? 😲

25Avalon

Name and shame officers who let Garrick stay in his job says Mina Smallman whose two daughters were murdered in a London Park. She now campaigns for women’s safety. The police watchdog says it will not be investigating any officers or staff. Surely all involved should be answerable?

Hear hear.

I also want to see details of training plans that will facilitate change. Training that brings in police women and policemen of colour who can speak of their experiences: training that brings in abuse survivors: training that discusses different ways of bonding (since in a police force you need close supportive colleague relationships, but not those based on a locker room mentality.)

Training that shames officers who have passively participated, make them think :if it were my sister, my mum, my wife, how would I feel then?

Training that discusses uncovers ways that men bond when its sexist and racist, offers alternatives.

I was married to a Met Police officer. He physically, mentally and sexually abused me for six years until I was brave enough to leave. His colleagues knew. They were called to my house several times.

FoghornLeghorn

I was married to a Met Police officer. He physically, mentally and sexually abused me for six years until I was brave enough to leave. His colleagues knew. They were called to my house several times.

This made me angry. No woman should have to endure this treatment and the fact that colleagues looked on and did nothing is appalling.

FoghornLeghorn 😲that’s just horrendous.
The Met has a long history of misogyny and corruption among it’s officers.Don’t know what the answer is without firing half the staff! Training of course but also regular check ups by appointed staff to monitor things?

That's awful FoghornLeghorn it must have taken great courage to leave, well done.

One of the dreadful things about all this is the complacency and entitlement amongst colleagues and even superior officers Oreo definitely some sort of monitoring would be a good thing.

Whistleblower, grass, turncoat, blackleg, snitch, telltale, traitor, stirrer, trouble maker.
Just a few of the words that should not be in the vocabulary.

The above are words that children use which allows bullies to prevail at an early age.

Apparently one of the women imprisoned by Garrick escaped to a woman’s refuge but they wouldn’t pursue it because he was a police officer and no one would believe it. She has now come forward with her story.

And now this:

www.lbc.co.uk/news/senior-met-police-officer-accused-of-having-a-secret-room-full-of-child-porn-and/

LauraNorderr

Whistleblower, grass, turncoat, blackleg, snitch, telltale, traitor, stirrer, trouble maker.
Just a few of the words that should not be in the vocabulary.

Watkinson, who had potential access to schools
He's been found dead.

Oh, what next.

Whistleblower, grass, turncoat, blackleg, snitch, telltale, traitor, stirrer, trouble maker
Any officer wanting to speak out is accused of being one of the above, being frightened and bullied into keeping quiet.

The Force is not fit for purpose, it's rotten and corrupt and should be disbanded.

Awful for you foghorn, you were courageous to get out.
Most of the police I worked with were good. My dad joined Lancashire in 1949. He was moved into GMP in the late sixties /early seventies when boundaries were redrawn. He was initially bath reluctant and unhappy because he said met police areas were all corrupt. It worked well fir him in the end but he was always critical of the met

Shocking, FoghornLeghorn, you must have felt as if you had nowhere to turn.
Well done for getting out of that horrendous situation.

If such a culture is allowed to exist and not stamped out firmly, it can take hold, others are frightened to speak out and that is how corruption prevails.

FoghornLeghorn for your bravery.

Perhaps it's cynical to wonder, but is it possible these sorts of officer are transferred to the diplomatic branch as a way of getting them out of a role with frequent face to face contact with the public? In many walks of life I've seen a bad attitude rewarded with a different or less public role in order to stop streams of complaints about them. The 'institution' has the knowledge of the bad behaviour but fails to eject the perpetrators for many reasons, certainly happens in religious institutions and I've seen similar elsewhere.

Sadly it isn't just the MET., We previously lived in Worcestershire and Gloucestershire and both counties had active and retired officers imprisoned for all types of sexual offences. Overview needs to be all encompassing throughout the regions.

Foghorn that is horrendous. I am so sorry you had to suffer that.
I hope the current chief will weed all these evil officers out. I rather think it will not happen.

Maybe disbanding the Met is the way to go to make for smaller more manageable forces.

Foghorn, I am so sorry to hear that. It is just so awful. What is even worse, is that his colleagues probably laughed about it, said you 'had asked for it' - all big joke. You were so courageous to find the strength to walk away.

And that is the thing- the violence, misoginy, and so much worse, only perpetrated by a few- BUT protected by colleagues who either joked about it, or felt disgusted but that they had to keep stum for fear of being ostracised or bullied.

If you know it is happening, and do nothing- you are aiding and abetting- and have to take some of the guilt.

Sadly there will always be bad eggs in every group, it's not just the Met.
I remember when my son was 13. He is autistic and rarely went out, but on this particular day he had caught a bus into a market town near us.

Unfortunately he does look a bit odd and stands out in a crowd, and a small group of lads, stole his phone.

He did the sensible thing and went home and the police were called. They turned up and seemed very understanding, until one of the officers told him 'next time you are approached give them a Glasgow kiss'! So sensible, but worse was to come the officer went on to recount stories of racism and violence perpetrated by him as a police officer.
Not rape but just goes to showhow the bad eggs use their position

To add insult to injury in this appalling case is that he may still be paid his pension. It’s being investigated.