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King Charles's coronation plans include Windsor concert

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ixion Sun 22-Jan-23 13:00:03

World-famous entertainers will perform at Windsor Castle as part of a weekend of celebrations to mark the King's coronation, it has been announced.
The concert will be broadcast on the BBC on 7 May featuring "global music icons", orchestras and a diverse "coronation choir".
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64349942

Which 'global icons' would you expect to see on stage?

Oreo Fri 03-Feb-23 21:47:53

Not a bad idea choughdancer they could represent all the countries and many areas that way, I like folk music too.
Just hope all the old acts who can’t sing a note now aren’t invited.

choughdancer Fri 03-Feb-23 20:18:49

I don't necessarily think that there should be a concert in these times of severe poverty, but if there is one, I would like some folk music/song to be included, from all the Celtic UK countries and regions, i.e. Scotland, Wales, Ireland, The Isle of Man and Cornwall as well as English folk. There is a huge amount of talent in these places!

Calendargirl Fri 03-Feb-23 19:46:28

varian

Perhaps Charles and Camilla should dress up in smart clothes (nothing new - they both have lots of smart clothes) and go along to Westminster Abbey alone, to meet the Archbishop of Canterbury, and perhaps a couple of other witnesses or whatever is required by law.

If they need two witnesses William and Kate might do the witnessing, then they should go through the required rigmarole, crowning etc, and have the whole ceremony televised by the BBC for worldwide distribution (at a cost) to other broadcasters and we might even make a profit!

They could just get the A of C to come along and do it all in the garden, privately, the same as he did for H&M’s ‘original’ wedding.

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Mollygo Fri 03-Feb-23 18:13:09

Would the different parts of the UK have the right to vote about whether they want a republic or retain the monarchy in their part of the UK? It would be a UK vote.
So those who are adamant that the monarchy is nothing to do with their part of the UK would like to vote on the rights of other parts -I see what you mean.

How many referenda would we have to have before the result was considered fair? Just the one.
Oh I thought some parts of the UK like more than one.

Galaxy Fri 03-Feb-23 17:44:12

I am a Republican but those who support the monarchy would win any vote on the issue. It may change of course.

fancythat Fri 03-Feb-23 16:10:26

I am for the institution for now.
But will see what if anything he changes.
I was glad his Kings speech could have been what the Queen would have said. But not convinced he wont try and make lots of changes after the coronation?

fancythat Fri 03-Feb-23 16:08:29

chris8888

It is hard to get excited about a new king when you can`t get an ambulance, see a doctor or register with an NHS dentist. Food prices are rising and putting the heating on for many is causing anxiety and fear. Wonder how much the security for that lot will be.

That is how I feel too.

Plus, he has been King for 4 months already. 7 by the time he is crowned.
Will he have any more powers, say or clout, after the coronation, compared to what he has now?

volver Fri 03-Feb-23 15:55:38

Will there be an age limit in case one age group might be more inclined to vote for a republic or a monarchy?
Over 18s. Same as in UK Parliamentary elections

Would the outcome also be analysed by education, locality, earnings, sex (or even gender!) Probably. That's what analysts do. confused

Would the dwindling members of the Commonwealth countries be allowed to vote? They can vote on who they want as HoS in their own country in their own referendum if they like. The one we are talking about is the UK Referendum. If another country is happy having an inherited monarch, they have no action to take.

Would expat Brits be allowed to vote? Do they vote for MPs? Same as that then.

Would the different parts of the UK have the right to vote about whether they want a republic or retain the monarchy in their part of the UK? It would be a UK vote.

Would they have the right to vote about whether other parts of the UK should be allowed to be a republic or retain the monarchy? You mean should the Welsh decide for the Scots? No.

Who should be allowed the right to vote on the head of state? Politicians? GNs? Under18s? Over 80s? Or some Quango? Its a democracy we want. Have a guess who would be allowed to vote.... hmm

How many referenda would we have to have before the result was considered fair? Just the one. Or we could have a coup. That would be fun.

Anything else I can help you with?

Mollygo Fri 03-Feb-23 15:31:21

It’s really down to do you like the monarchy or not.
I’ve read so many posts about this, and those who are ‘happy’ for the monarchy to exist and those who aren’t ‘happy’ post the same stuff each time.

Imagine a referendum about retaining the monarchy or becoming a republic.

Questions to consider:

Will there be an age limit in case one age group might be more inclined to vote for a republic or a monarchy?
Would the outcome also be analysed by education, locality, earnings, sex (or even gender!)

Would the dwindling members of the Commonwealth countries be allowed to vote?

Would expat Brits be allowed to vote?

Would the different parts of the UK have the right to vote about whether they want a republic or retain the monarchy in their part of the UK?

Would they have the right to vote about whether other parts of the UK should be allowed to be a republic or retain the monarchy?

Who should be allowed the right to vote on the head of state? Politicians? GNs? Under18s? Over 80s? Or some Quango?
How many referenda would we have to have before the result was considered fair?

We could equal the number of H&M threads on that. And by the way, have you read that many in the US are fed up of H&M and think they should go home ? (By home they meant the UK, not M’s home.)

Grany Fri 03-Feb-23 15:25:08

Thank you Varian Well said Volver

Anyone want to sign the petition for a vote on the monarchy? 😂

volver Fri 03-Feb-23 13:34:04

Can I answer that one? I’m sure Grany will come along later and give her view.

In the highly unlikely event that Johnson would want to stand for a role that would have no political power, and a majority of the population want him to be President, why would we have to safeguard ourselves against that? What would be so dire that we had better stick with the medieval model instead?

So Johnson gets elected President. He turns up at official events and gets to shake hands with powerful people. He gets to feel important. He visits Heads of State in other countries. How would we notice the difference from what he does now? He has to abide by an (as yet unwritten) constitution that says his power is mostly in making sure that the constitution is followed. The real power in the country stays with the PM and Parliament – as it has been for decades, maybe centuries.

And if we think President Johnson isn’t very good at the job, we don’t vote for him next time. Whereas right now, if we don’t think the Head of State is very good at the job, tough luck, we’re stuck with him till his son takes over. And we won’t have to support President Johnson’s extended family in their multitude of fancy houses and he doesn’t get to have his own laws about inheritance or tax. Unlike what we have now.

What on earth do we have to “safeguard” ourselves from??

varian Fri 03-Feb-23 13:18:32

You make a very good case for a republic Grany

But how do we safeguard ourselves and our country from the dire prospect of a President Boris Johnson???

Grany Fri 03-Feb-23 09:09:15

Why not choose our own Head of State

The Royal Family costs the UK £345 million. Money that could be better spent.

What do we get back, nothing. I’ll explain.

1 The Royal family do only a few engagements a year mainly near where they live so minimal time spent travelling then back to their days of leisure, they spend public money day in day out on their own interests and pastimes using helicopters which are very polluting to the environment.

2 The Royals do not do much if anything for charities. An Independent Report was published by Giving Evidence looking at whether or not charities benefit from royal patronage and it was evident that charities shouldn’t bother seeking it thinking they will help much.

3 Royals have little affect on tourism, the Palace of Versailles has many more tourists, they have no royals, much better to open up the palaces to the public they could see the art that’s hidden and this would become a world heritage site bringing in money and tourism.

4 The royals have 20 grand homes castles and palaces for their own use all at tax payers expense.

5 Charles vets legislation to benefit his own private interests. In public office for private gain.

6 A president or Head of State has checks and balances in place if a PM broke any of the laws of our constitution they would step in. Our king cannot do that he can only do what the PM asks. What is the point of a king who cannot step in to stop a rogue PM.

7 Royals are secretive above the law unaccountable and have exempted themselves from the freedom of information act. What have they got to hide.

8 Both king and heir get over £22 million! each from the two Duchies nice job if you can get it. This money should go to the treasury.

9 But no one can be Head of State it is given from birth to one family, the power and privilege it’s undeserved. It’s not right it’s not democracy.

A British Head of State a president we choose would be a parliamentary Head of State similar to Ireland Michael D Higgins a well respected man and accountable to the people. Ireland’s President costs £4 million.

Charles wants a pointless coronation at a cost £100 million in cost of living crisis. He has not paid any inheritance tax why? The public have to pay inheritance tax at 40%

Would you sign a petition to have a referendum on the monarchy?
actionstorm.org/petitions/notmyking?ref=572639

For more information
www.republic.org.uk/

varian Thu 26-Jan-23 18:15:28

Perhaps Charles and Camilla should dress up in smart clothes (nothing new - they both have lots of smart clothes) and go along to Westminster Abbey alone, to meet the Archbishop of Canterbury, and perhaps a couple of other witnesses or whatever is required by law.

If they need two witnesses William and Kate might do the witnessing, then they should go through the required rigmarole, crowning etc, and have the whole ceremony televised by the BBC for worldwide distribution (at a cost) to other broadcasters and we might even make a profit!

Vintagenonna Thu 26-Jan-23 14:20:08

It would have more meaning were it done quietly and at minimal cost. Anything to save us from that simpering pillock Nicholas Witchell.

It is hard enough funding the salaries of ex-prime ministers.

tattygran14 Thu 26-Jan-23 14:10:38

I think it's a shame we're not celebrating the coronation of William and Catherine. There would be so much more interest and joy than with this tedious elderly pair.

effalump Thu 26-Jan-23 12:39:09

For those of us who are struggling to pay household bills at the moment, I can't help but feel a three day celebration is rubbing out nose in it. Who's paying for it, less than a year after his mum's Jubilee. The country, in fact all countries of the world, are on the verge of a total, global, banking system crash and we're expected to celebrate.

Rosina Tue 24-Jan-23 22:50:11

Cossy Prince Edward does a great deal with the D of E awards I believe. When Prince Philip died it was said that he had wanted Prince Edward to take the title and become Duke of Edinburgh, but that seems to have quietly been shelved - perhaps temporarily.

nanna8 Tue 24-Jan-23 22:48:19

Just not Paul McCartney, please. So boring and smug.

icanhandthemback Tue 24-Jan-23 21:00:17

I saw Rod Stewart perform not long back and he was fantastic. The difference was he was not suffering from Covid and was singing his own songs. I would quite like to see him redeem himself.
I've just spent a weekend listening to some old timers who can still perform beautifully. John Verity from Argent and Del Bonham from Stray have joined to become the Verity Bonham Band and they can give a performance which is just brilliant despite their age.

veejay Tue 24-Jan-23 19:42:13

I am really looking forward to the Coronation
I watched the Queens on our first TV
.I like Charles and I believe he will be a good King.
I only hope the 2 whingers don't go.
I would like to see Michael Buble.amongst the singer's
Rod Stewart. too,not Cliff Richard
Didn't the King just give £52 million to the country.or maybe £152 million not sure now
I have nothing against Camilla and he loves her, he is entitled to his happinesd. H& M will ruin the atmosphere if they turn up

volver Tue 24-Jan-23 19:32:34

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Cossy Tue 24-Jan-23 19:14:50

Apologies Volver of course it was the present King’s father who started the DoE scheme and I mistakenly thought our new king would take this over but obvs not

Jaberwok Tue 24-Jan-23 19:09:57

James V1th predecessors, Scottish kings, and Queen were not crowned in Westminster Abbey, his successors were.

L1247 Tue 24-Jan-23 19:08:00

I would like to see him contribute some of his vast fortune towards his coronation. After all he didn't have to pay death duty when the Queen died.