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Woman found guilty of raping two women. Remanded in custody for sentence end February

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Iam64 Wed 25-Jan-23 08:34:52

Apologies for my technical inability to link, maybe some one will.
This individual says they were confused from age 4 about gender identity. S/he has been taking hormones and told the court s/he wants ‘all the surgery the nhs can give’. Defence council argued there are three vulnerable women in the case, his client and the women. The defendant pleaded not guilt, arguing the sex was consensual. Both women gave evidence that they resisted, told him no but his strength overcame resistance. The jury clearly believe the women.
He’s ric to a women’s prison, but will be kept in solitude.
We need prison facilities for these kind of offenders. I understand they’d be vulnerable in men’s prisons but they should not be in women’s prison.

Callistemon21 Fri 27-Jan-23 17:20:39

I cleaned and decluttered two cupboard shelves in the kitchen today. 👏

GrannyGravy13 Fri 27-Jan-23 17:05:37

I am on Granny duty, playroom trashed, lounge trashed and I am kn*****ed.
It’s like herding cats have to get 3 & 5 yr olds ready to go out to local Italian restaurant now that the other 3yr old and 7yr old have gone home.
Fingers crossed they sleep well as they are here until tomorrow evening 😴😹

FannyCornforth Fri 27-Jan-23 16:56:40

Molly It was moving house.
I’ve decided to not move house for the foreseeable.
I’m a lost cause 🤦‍♀️

Mollygo Fri 27-Jan-23 16:45:32

FannyCornforth

There is that!

Me too, I’ve been dreadful for it today.

FC. I’ve found having a dog increases housework snd the incentive to do it. Something to do with dog hairs and muddy paws, even though she’s brushed regularly and noodled when she’s been out.
What’s your greatest incentive to do housework?

VioletSky Fri 27-Jan-23 16:31:20

The problem with housework is there are two types of people

Those who think that fairies keep it clean by magic and those who know gremlins make it dirty and walk around muttering "I just bloody cleaned that".

My house is clean and tidy most of the time but only because I'm lazy and know if I get too far behind it will be a huge effort to catch up again

Yet I still spend more time procrastinating cleaning than actually cleaning... no fairies here

Mollygo Fri 27-Jan-23 16:28:44

FC and Galaxy - I hope your time on here today has given you a degree of pleasure.
It certainly does that for me, whether it’s reading about air fryers, playground games or other people’s holidays. Even just for entertainment, it beats watching much of the stuff on TV.

FannyCornforth Fri 27-Jan-23 16:23:47

There is that!

Me too, I’ve been dreadful for it today.

Galaxy Fri 27-Jan-23 16:23:35

You should see the state of my house today because I have been on here instead of actually doing something.

VioletSky Fri 27-Jan-23 16:22:27

But Fanny how else would I ever procrastinate?

I do probably check my phone a bit too often, it's a modern day curse many of us suffer

Mollygo Fri 27-Jan-23 16:18:18

Blinko

AGAA4
Isn't it time people stood up to this minority group of aggressive males?
TRAs are aggressive men who will actively try to destroy anyone who disagrees with them with violent threats.
There is strength in numbers and I don't believe many people agree with their stance. They are afraid of these bullies but the TRAs have 'wokeness' on their side and are using it to force people to accept their views.
Well said. TRAs are aggressive men…

Unfortunately some TRA are also aggressive women, who endorse the actions of the aggressive men.

FannyCornforth Fri 27-Jan-23 16:16:33

VioletSky

Do not don't

Honestly very tired today

Violet You are going to think me sarcastic, but I’m honestly not being - but you don’t have to be on here all of time fighting your corner
It’s supposed to hold at least a degree of pleasure

VioletSky Fri 27-Jan-23 15:57:22

Do not don't

Honestly very tired today

VioletSky Fri 27-Jan-23 15:56:40

But so many of your replies to me are antagonistic and I don't stop reading when it becomes personal as, it will just make me moody and I will write a moody reply.. so it could be the rest of the reply was after that bit

I want to reply not react

VioletSky Fri 27-Jan-23 15:54:25

doodledog

I hadn't seen you say that actually but the page doesn't always refresh properly

Whatever you want/need was a reply to a different thing you asked me

Blinko Fri 27-Jan-23 15:41:13

AGAA4

Isn't it time people stood up to this minority group of aggressive males?
TRAs are aggressive men who will actively try to destroy anyone who disagrees with them with violent threats.
There is strength in numbers and I don't believe many people agree with their stance. They are afraid of these bullies but the TRAs have 'wokeness' on their side and are using it to force people to accept their views.

Well said. TRAs are aggressive men…

AGAA4 Fri 27-Jan-23 15:41:04

I applaud those who do stand up to them but as individuals they don't stand a chance. Very brave of them though.

Doodledog Fri 27-Jan-23 15:29:17

Thanks Galaxy.

People have tried to stand up to them, AGAA4, but they have to be rich, like JKR, or very brave, like Maya Forstater, Kathleen Stock or Allison Bailey to deal with the sustained abuse.

AGAA4 Fri 27-Jan-23 15:15:27

Isn't it time people stood up to this minority group of aggressive males?
TRAs are aggressive men who will actively try to destroy anyone who disagrees with them with violent threats.
There is strength in numbers and I don't believe many people agree with their stance. They are afraid of these bullies but the TRAs have 'wokeness' on their side and are using it to force people to accept their views.

Galaxy Fri 27-Jan-23 15:00:14

It's on his Twitter and he is saying it in reference to this case and is absolutely not recanting TWAW but you can imagine that he is getting some backlash for it, from both 'sides'.

Doodledog Fri 27-Jan-23 14:56:28

Galaxy

Have you seen Owen Jones saying 'this is the right decision' it would be hilarious if the issue wasnt so serious.
Ok this is my crystal ball time grin. I knew Johnson was finished as PM when Ant and Dec made a joke on prime time TV about him being prime minister 'for now' I was watching with my son and said that's it hes finished.
Owen Jones doing a reverse ferret is the beginning of the end.

Oh, fabulous! grin

Where can I see this? I have a feeling that it will be like watching Michael Portillo lose his seat in 1997.

eazybee Fri 27-Jan-23 14:56:08

It was not long ago that Yvette Cooper was unable to say what a woman is.
Political expediency.
All that is needed is common sense.

Doodledog Fri 27-Jan-23 14:54:10

Keir has to lead it, I think. I've never thought that the others believed the mantra - it was clearly something they had been told to say, to avoid a backlash from the TRAs.

I have mixed feelings about this. Given that the media is very anti-Labour, and given that they did such a hatched job on Corbyn, Keir started at the bottom of a very steep mountain. The last thing he needed was to be given the same treatment as JKR, or others who have got on the wrong side of the trans lobby. Prevarication was probably the most pragmatic way forward.

What I do dislike is the way people like Rosie Duffield have been treated, and the fact that we could have got to where we are heading (I hope) a lot faster if she hadn't been left to fight the feminist fight without backup.

AGAA4 Fri 27-Jan-23 14:49:56

Feel politically homeless as I will not vote for the Tories and Labour don't seem to know what a woman is. Basic biology lessons may help them to understand.

Galaxy Fri 27-Jan-23 14:43:33

Have you seen Owen Jones saying 'this is the right decision' it would be hilarious if the issue wasnt so serious.
Ok this is my crystal ball time grin. I knew Johnson was finished as PM when Ant and Dec made a joke on prime time TV about him being prime minister 'for now' I was watching with my son and said that's it hes finished.
Owen Jones doing a reverse ferret is the beginning of the end.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 27-Jan-23 14:40:38

Galaxy

I think lisa nandy will be reverse ferreting as fast as she can, that's from a previous case isnt it? both Yvette cooper and David blunkett have spoken out in the last couple of days.

I heard Yvette Cooper, if she was leader of the Labour Party I would seriously consider lending them my X