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Woman found guilty of raping two women. Remanded in custody for sentence end February

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Baggs Wed 25-Jan-23 09:33:36

The person is still a man. You can't change your sex even if you can change your gendered presentation to the world.

BlueBelle Wed 25-Jan-23 09:30:38

No she can not have a penis just as he can have a womb
It’s impossible he is not a she until that appendage is removed then maybe he can be referred to as a she

Oopsadaisy1 Wed 25-Jan-23 09:24:46

The rapes were carried out when the person was a man, from what I read.

NotSpaghetti Wed 25-Jan-23 09:23:23

This person lived as a man until relatively recently (2020). In fact she was living as Adam Graham when the rapes happened (2016 and 2019) and was charged under that name, and as a man.

She made the first court appearance as a man and only started to identify as a woman after that. The victims met her when she was obviously male.

Anniebach clearly the reason it is "her penis" is simply acknowledgement that this person, now identifying as a woman, has a penis!

Oldwoman70 Wed 25-Jan-23 09:22:34

While I fully support anyone who feels they are in the wrong body, I do think that as long as someone is physically male they should not be kept in the same prison as women. The safety of the prisoners must take precedence. Perhaps a separate institution is the answer.

Jaxjacky Wed 25-Jan-23 08:44:43

Here’s the link
metro.co.uk/2023/01/24/transgender-woman-guilty-of-two-rapes-carried-out-when-she-was-a-man-18157684/

Anniebach Wed 25-Jan-23 08:36:51

Read the case, it referred to -her penis’

Iam64 Wed 25-Jan-23 08:34:52

Apologies for my technical inability to link, maybe some one will.
This individual says they were confused from age 4 about gender identity. S/he has been taking hormones and told the court s/he wants ‘all the surgery the nhs can give’. Defence council argued there are three vulnerable women in the case, his client and the women. The defendant pleaded not guilt, arguing the sex was consensual. Both women gave evidence that they resisted, told him no but his strength overcame resistance. The jury clearly believe the women.
He’s ric to a women’s prison, but will be kept in solitude.
We need prison facilities for these kind of offenders. I understand they’d be vulnerable in men’s prisons but they should not be in women’s prison.