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Lanzarote says it is fed up with having so many British tourists visiting the island - and wants FEWER UK holidaymakers!

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Urmstongran Thu 02-Feb-23 19:51:53

Oh dear.
I think they may regret this statement. Brits abroad spend a lot of money.
What are your thoughts on this?

Fleurpepper Fri 03-Feb-23 11:41:05

Ask them in Budapest, or Ibiza, or Ayanapa.

Urmstongran Fri 03-Feb-23 11:37:27

I read once that the UK is about 20y behind the USA (think back to telephones & fridge freezers in America in the late 40’s!) and that the UK is about 10y ahead of Spain (which used to be a fairly poor country, was mostly agricultural before tourism) and I’ve truly noticed that down on the marina at Benalmádena - since Covid - that the Spanish themselves have begun to embrace hen and stag doos! Groups of Spanish young ‘uns on holidays, dressed up as is letting their hair down. Who’d’ve think it?
🤣
Look out Lanzarote!

Yammy Fri 03-Feb-23 11:36:24

Callistemon21

Anyone who has lived in a tourist destination and is not working in the tourist industry may find it difficult.

Many of us have experienced being both tourist and local in a tourist destination.
The crowds might be annoying to those not working in the tourist industry but obviously they bring income to the area

Swings and roundabouts.

Not always swings and roundabouts if you live in or near a tourist destination, especially if your family have lived there for generations and yet your young people cannot afford to buy in their own locality. North Yorkshire for one example, Northumberland for another.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 03-Feb-23 11:34:40

Fleurpepper

Perhaps a balance to be struck. Not upmarket as such, but the right changes to attract another type of tourist, more respectful of locals, customs... I am sure you know what I mean.

Ask people what they think of British tourists- and they will tell you. Sadly they rarely see or meet 'well behaved Brits' so no wonder they have such a bad impression.

Jeezy peeps Fleurpepper I have never read so much prejudice from a poster.

Callistemon21 Fri 03-Feb-23 11:34:19

And you know perfectly well what people have been saying here

No, could you explain, please.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 03-Feb-23 11:32:48

Blimey snobbery on GN, who’d have thunk it…

Correct sort of tourists, really!

A teeny tiny proportion of of all tourists like a boozy noisy holiday. I have seen Germans, Scandinavians, Russians and French Drunk and bawdy abroad. Let’s not forget the American teens in Europe who can’t drink at home till they are 21 go loopy in Europe.

Fleurpepper Fri 03-Feb-23 11:32:04

Perhaps a balance to be struck. Not upmarket as such, but the right changes to attract another type of tourist, more respectful of locals, customs... I am sure you know what I mean.

Ask people what they think of British tourists- and they will tell you. Sadly they rarely see or meet 'well behaved Brits' so no wonder they have such a bad impression.

Callistemon21 Fri 03-Feb-23 11:30:56

Urmstongran

Most of us’ll be back in flat caps keeping pigeons and whippets, riding our bikes, if places become ‘upmarket’ once again. Flying will revert to holidays for the rich only again. Oh wait - Thank goodness for Mr. O’Leary .... 😁

Spluttering into my coffee Urmstongran!!

Eeh, bah gum, them were the days my friend!

Urmstongran Fri 03-Feb-23 11:24:17

Most of us’ll be back in flat caps keeping pigeons and whippets, riding our bikes, if places become ‘upmarket’ once again. Flying will revert to holidays for the rich only again. Oh wait - Thank goodness for Mr. O’Leary .... 😁

Fleurpepper Fri 03-Feb-23 11:20:44

Callistemon21

Jaxjacky

23% of their residents are non native, the majority of those are British, I wonder if they’re the ‘right sort’?

What is the right sort anyway?
I think we're still waiting for a definition.

If at the same time, you can up your game and attract another 'type' of tourist, and make everyones life more enjoyable, be it tourists or locals, win, win, win ...

another type of tourist
What type of tourist?
Obviously not the likes of us or others on here who says they have visited Lanzarote already.

So who? Only the very wealthy?
Those who have been privately educated?
Germans? French? Swiss? Dutch? Americans? Russians? (No, they go to Salisbury)

Who, exactly?

Well there are 2 aspects here. One is the financial one- it is better to sell a product to those who can pay a higher price. Low Sterling is making the UK market not very attractive.

And you know perfectly well what people have been saying here. Sadly, if too many Brits behave very badly when on holiday, and cheap destinations attract them, for stag dos, and cheap drink into oblivion + drugs and sex holidays- then it gets some groups all tarred with the same brush. Sad, but ...

So, up your game, spend Covid time to re-decorate, improve facilities, better bathrooms, etc, etc, put your prices up and you get 'natural selection'. As said, a holiday is just another product like any other.

As for other nationalities, it is a fact that those with a better exchange rate, who can therefore afford to pay for better holidays, will get priority. Just a commercial fact.

Fleurpepper Fri 03-Feb-23 11:15:17

Callistemon21

Fleurpepper

A holiday package, at the end of the day, is just another commercial product' Makes sense to sell to those with a better currency and standards. Be it cars, medicines, etc, etc, etc, and holidays. If at the same time, you can up your game and attract another 'type' of tourist, and make everyones life more enjoyable, be it tourists or locals, win, win, win ...

So only certain people should be able to experience holidays overseas?

Rather like the days of the Grand Tour while the peasants stayed at home and tilled the soil, worked in the cotton mills.

Bring back the Good Olde Days!

Nope- this is not what I said, at all.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 03-Feb-23 11:14:00

Well speaking for myself, the stag and hen parties are to be avoided at all costs.

We went on a cheapie cruise P&O to European ports over a long weekend a few years ago.

Never again!

Casdon Fri 03-Feb-23 11:11:19

Callistemon21

nanna8

I’d never heard of Lanzarote so I looked it up. It looks very interesting and not that far,either. It takes us about the same length of time to fly to Perth from Melbourne. You are so lucky living in Europe, such a lot of close places. If they don’t want British tourists,what sort do they want ? Do the Brits have a reputation for rowdiness or something ( like the Australians who go to Kuta)?

I haven't heard of Kuta, will have to look it up!

Yes, we're all drunk, disorderly and unspeakably noisy. Every single British person.

It's since Brexit you know.

I’ve been to both Kuta (Bali) and Lanzarote, and I’d say there are definite parallels. The difference is though that Kuta is still definitely a Balinese city where tourists visit, and there are lots of other unspoilt, and upmarket tourist parts of the island, whereas Lanzarote has been pretty much taken over by tourists. It’s not surprising I guess if as Jaxjackysays 23% of their residents are not natives - that means the natives are outnumbered about 20/1 all year, and presumably a fair proportion of the tourists are a problem behaviour wise. I wouldn’t like to be a Lanzarote policeman (or a Kuta one for that matter).

Callistemon21 Fri 03-Feb-23 11:09:23

Jaxjacky

23% of their residents are non native, the majority of those are British, I wonder if they’re the ‘right sort’?

What is the right sort anyway?
I think we're still waiting for a definition.

If at the same time, you can up your game and attract another 'type' of tourist, and make everyones life more enjoyable, be it tourists or locals, win, win, win ...

another type of tourist
What type of tourist?
Obviously not the likes of us or others on here who says they have visited Lanzarote already.

So who? Only the very wealthy?
Those who have been privately educated?
Germans? French? Swiss? Dutch? Americans? Russians? (No, they go to Salisbury)

Who, exactly?

Juliet27 Fri 03-Feb-23 11:04:49

Yes, we're all drunk, disorderly and unspeakably noisy. Every single British person

You speak for yourself Callistemon!! 😉😉

Juliet27 Fri 03-Feb-23 11:00:48

I went to Corfu even before the airport was built. It was idyllic - just like My Family and Other Animals.

Jaxjacky Fri 03-Feb-23 10:58:33

23% of their residents are non native, the majority of those are British, I wonder if they’re the ‘right sort’?

Zoejory Fri 03-Feb-23 10:57:25

ParlorGames

We have another name for it in our family........Lanzagrotty.......says it all as far as we are concerned.

Oh dear.

Any reason why?

The childish name, Lanzagrotty has been knocking around for years.

Lanzarote is quite beautiful.

Callistemon21 Fri 03-Feb-23 10:54:09

ParlorGames

We have another name for it in our family........Lanzagrotty.......says it all as far as we are concerned.

No, it is intriguing, but without all the sculptures etc it could be just a tad boring less interesting.

It's not at all grotty but it is like the Earth turned inside out! 😀

ParlorGames Fri 03-Feb-23 10:43:15

We have another name for it in our family........Lanzagrotty.......says it all as far as we are concerned.

Callistemon21 Fri 03-Feb-23 10:39:28

nanna8

I’d never heard of Lanzarote so I looked it up. It looks very interesting and not that far,either. It takes us about the same length of time to fly to Perth from Melbourne. You are so lucky living in Europe, such a lot of close places. If they don’t want British tourists,what sort do they want ? Do the Brits have a reputation for rowdiness or something ( like the Australians who go to Kuta)?

I haven't heard of Kuta, will have to look it up!

Yes, we're all drunk, disorderly and unspeakably noisy. Every single British person.

It's since Brexit you know.

Callistemon21 Fri 03-Feb-23 10:37:17

Fleurpepper

A holiday package, at the end of the day, is just another commercial product' Makes sense to sell to those with a better currency and standards. Be it cars, medicines, etc, etc, etc, and holidays. If at the same time, you can up your game and attract another 'type' of tourist, and make everyones life more enjoyable, be it tourists or locals, win, win, win ...

So only certain people should be able to experience holidays overseas?

Rather like the days of the Grand Tour while the peasants stayed at home and tilled the soil, worked in the cotton mills.

Bring back the Good Olde Days!

Maudi Fri 03-Feb-23 10:36:14

Today 09:44Casdon
I don’t agree with that assessment that they should be careful what they wish for Maudi, because they will always do well, the weather will always draw Europeans to the Canaries in the winter, as the weather is warmer than mainland Spain. I’d imagine Santander must have quite iffy weather apart from in the summer so it’s not the same scenario.

The survey was for the whole of Spain ie where you visited and stayed. I was only getting the ferry from Santander back to the UK we actually spent nearly 3 months in Southern Spain and yes Northern Spain weather not so good in Autumn/Winter. Not so many Brits when we were there more Germans and Dutch they said it was because of the 3 month rule.

Callistemon21 Fri 03-Feb-23 10:34:46

Anyone who has lived in a tourist destination and is not working in the tourist industry may find it difficult.

Many of us have experienced being both tourist and local in a tourist destination.
The crowds might be annoying to those not working in the tourist industry but obviously they bring income to the area

Swings and roundabouts.

Fleurpepper Fri 03-Feb-23 10:31:51

A holiday package, at the end of the day, is just another commercial product' Makes sense to sell to those with a better currency and standards. Be it cars, medicines, etc, etc, etc, and holidays. If at the same time, you can up your game and attract another 'type' of tourist, and make everyones life more enjoyable, be it tourists or locals, win, win, win ...