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Johnson recommends membership of the EU for Ukraine

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Parsley3 Fri 03-Feb-23 10:32:43

twitter.com/implausibleblog/status/1621162191792803840?t=XAKIMaHDlNf3KIEjGt5qYg&s=19

Click on the picture to hear his words. I am confused. Johnson is saying that Membership of the EU will be good for Ukraine. James O'brien is discussing this on LBC just now so perhaps someone will phone in to explain Johnson's thinking.

Oldbat1 Thu 16-Feb-23 17:11:35

Why oh why is Johnson spouting forth. He is an utter shambolic disgrace and a failure!

vegansrock Thu 16-Feb-23 17:01:41

One wonders why Johnson didn’t encourage Ukraine to join the Commonwealth.

Dickens Thu 16-Feb-23 13:34:22

Brexit, the war, climate change, etc... are all simply props for Johnson's personal ambition. They are the means to an end.

I doubt he really gives a fig about his loyal Brexit fans, Ukraine or climate change.

IMO he was the very last person who should have been in charge of Brexit - not that I think it was the right decision to leave, but the main protagonist should, at least, have been someone who was totally dedicated to the 'cause' for its own sake. And someone, who might have had a notion of the lives of the ordinary voting public,

He appears to be bound by no code other than that of self-promotion. Laws, regulations, Parliamentary ethics, don't apply to him. If anyone opposes him, they are wrong - wrong because they have opposed him.

IMO he has damaged the country beyond repair and we will all, Leavers and Remainers, pay the price that his self-entitled, narcissistic personality has inflicted on us. And I don't think he will ever have a moment of reflection, or doubt... he will just continue on his cavalier, vainglorious rampage.

The Gods forbid he ever gets anywhere near the levers of power again.

Fleurpepper Thu 16-Feb-23 12:51:12

“The risk of a nuclear escalation on Russia’s borders with NATO countries continues to rise. With its army worn down by the offensive in Ukraine, Moscow has withdrawn troops from the area and replaced them with tactical nuclear weapons on its Northern Fleet ships for the first time since the collapse of the Soviet Union, according to Norwegian military intelligence.”

Oreo Sun 05-Feb-23 20:44:32

HousePlantQueen

Ukraine would not be able to join the EU until it sorted out a few domestic issues, to put it mildly. We should not let the atrocity of the Russian invasion blind us to the reality of pre-invasion Ukraine. Likewise, despite what Johnson and other liars said, Turkey is a long way from being able to join the EU due to human rights abuses, treatment of women, minorities etc.,

Johnson has jumped on the Ukraine bandwagon to further his own cause, whatever that may be, probably writing a book or giving an overpriced lecture to daft Americans about his so called statemanship.

This.👏🏻👏🏻

pascal30 Sun 05-Feb-23 19:50:12

varian

Johnson, is of course right in saying the EU membership would be good for Ukraine.

EU membership was very good for the UK until Johnson and his fellow Leave liars dragged us out after the fraudulent referendum of 2016.

absolutely Varian.. what a nerve, defies belief

Fleurpepper Sun 05-Feb-23 19:16:21

HousePlantQueen

Sunak needs to reign Johnson in and remind him that he is only paid to represent his constituents. If I was Foreign or Defence Secretary I would be most alarmed by this self serving grifter with KGB friends strutting about the world stage. Just who signed off his expenses for these trips?

This 100%. A very dangerous man indeed.

HousePlantQueen Sun 05-Feb-23 18:45:55

Ukraine would not be able to join the EU until it sorted out a few domestic issues, to put it mildly. We should not let the atrocity of the Russian invasion blind us to the reality of pre-invasion Ukraine. Likewise, despite what Johnson and other liars said, Turkey is a long way from being able to join the EU due to human rights abuses, treatment of women, minorities etc.,

Johnson has jumped on the Ukraine bandwagon to further his own cause, whatever that may be, probably writing a book or giving an overpriced lecture to daft Americans about his so called statemanship.

varian Sun 05-Feb-23 18:38:08

Johnson, is of course right in saying the EU membership would be good for Ukraine.

EU membership was very good for the UK until Johnson and his fellow Leave liars dragged us out after the fraudulent referendum of 2016.

HousePlantQueen Sun 05-Feb-23 18:20:13

Sunak needs to reign Johnson in and remind him that he is only paid to represent his constituents. If I was Foreign or Defence Secretary I would be most alarmed by this self serving grifter with KGB friends strutting about the world stage. Just who signed off his expenses for these trips?

Parsley3 Sun 05-Feb-23 17:45:39

twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1621582251069788161?t=SUGq4IkDLfSnG6EqrP5law&s=19

Oh yes, definitely the Minister for Stating the Bleeding Obvious. He is telling the USA that defeating Putin sooner rather than later is a good thing and will save tax dollars. What a visionary he is! Not a shred of self awareness in sight.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 03-Feb-23 14:17:41

Yammy

MayBee70

Yammy

A man to be watched. I always think about how his brother Joe got out of the Government when he came to be P.M. may be afraid of being accused of nepotism or maybe knows something the wider public doesn't.

Was happy to accept a peerage from his brother though.

I did say maybe he knew something the wider public didn't, maybe he was in line then. What a family.

What an upbringing

Yammy Fri 03-Feb-23 14:16:18

MayBee70

Yammy

A man to be watched. I always think about how his brother Joe got out of the Government when he came to be P.M. may be afraid of being accused of nepotism or maybe knows something the wider public doesn't.

Was happy to accept a peerage from his brother though.

I did say maybe he knew something the wider public didn't, maybe he was in line then. What a family.

Parsley3 Fri 03-Feb-23 14:14:13

Thank you for the clip, riverwalk. The prospect of Turkey joining the EU was one of the Farage arguments for supporting the Leave campaign and yet here is Johnson making a convincing argument for its membership. Sunak needs to reel him in.

Parsley3 Fri 03-Feb-23 14:01:32

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/boris-johnson-brexit-ukraine-kyiv-france-b2273919.html
He is still a Brexit fan then.

Riverwalk Fri 03-Feb-23 13:58:30

I'd forgotten this gem - remember when Bozzer wanted Turkey to join the EU?

Seems extraordinary now, and a reminder how this political chancer changed sides to bolster his own career.

Just in case you didn't know:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLQ3Gbiopc4&ab_channel=CenkTuran

MayBee70 Fri 03-Feb-23 13:51:38

Yammy

A man to be watched. I always think about how his brother Joe got out of the Government when he came to be P.M. may be afraid of being accused of nepotism or maybe knows something the wider public doesn't.

Was happy to accept a peerage from his brother though.

MaizieD Fri 03-Feb-23 13:49:59

MaizieD

Not a peep about this on the BBC?

Or in the right wing media...

I've just searched for it...

NannyJan53 Fri 03-Feb-23 13:48:21

You really couldn't make it up could you! I think he just wings it from day to day

Parsley3 Fri 03-Feb-23 13:48:12

James O'brien did say that it is not being reported and I could only find the clip I posted. It may only become an issue if Johnson tries to come back as Mr GotBrexitDone at the next General Election.

MaizieD Fri 03-Feb-23 13:44:17

Not a peep about this on the BBC?

Casdon Fri 03-Feb-23 13:30:32

He’s beginning to remind me of Katie Price, increasingly desperate steps to keep his profile in the media lest we forget. As if.

Parsley3 Fri 03-Feb-23 12:51:55

It seems to me to be the efforts of a desperate man to get back into the public eye.

Yammy Fri 03-Feb-23 12:38:39

A man to be watched. I always think about how his brother Joe got out of the Government when he came to be P.M. may be afraid of being accused of nepotism or maybe knows something the wider public doesn't.

Grantanow Fri 03-Feb-23 12:32:18

Grandstanding. He should lose the Tory whip. He knows it would take some 10 years to process Ukraine - there are others in the queue, the EU would face massive reconstruction costs for Ukraine and poorer countries like Portugal would become net contributors rather than beneficiaries. He's on manoeuvres.