Evidence strongly suggests breaches of coronavirus rules would have been “obvious” to Boris Johnson during partygate, the inquiry into whether he lied to MPs has said.

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MaizieD

It does make you wish more could be done cross party. I looked up the detail, just out of interest:

All Parliamentary Select Committees are cross party, DaisyAnne. That is where parliamentary work is really done.

The Select Committees scrutinise and comment (which is work) but the decisions rest with the Commons and Lords. The government controls the Commons agenda (aside from a few Opposition days) so with an adequate majority the decisions on Bills in the Commons are effectively the government's no matter what is said in debate or in Select Committee's. When Bills go to the Committee stage the debate is not cross-party but almost entirely adversarial. The outcome of a Privileges Committee investigation is subject to the Commons and so can be rejected by a government majority.

Sad person that I am, I rather like watching the Select Committees at times. If there weren't so many MPs Parliament could be run more on their sensible lines. Just a thought.

MaizieD

^It does make you wish more could be done cross party. I looked up the detail, just out of interest:^

All Parliamentary Select Committees are cross party, DaisyAnne. That is where parliamentary work is really done.

The Select Committees scrutinise and comment (which is work) but the decisions rest with the Commons and Lords. The government controls the Commons agenda (aside from a few Opposition days) so with an adequate majority the decisions on Bills in the Commons are effectively the government's no matter what is said in debate or in Select Committee's. When Bills go to the Committee stage the debate is not cross-party but almost entirely adversarial. The outcome of a Privileges Committee investigation is subject to the Commons and so can be rejected by a government majority.

MaizieD

^It does make you wish more could be done cross party. I looked up the detail, just out of interest:^

All Parliamentary Select Committees are cross party, DaisyAnne. That is where parliamentary work is really done.

I know they are all cross party but I do not carry the actual numbers around in my head.

Sharing knowledge is a great thing. Unasked-for instruction is simply rude.

I’m not really a political animal, but……

It does make you wish more could be done cross party. I looked up the detail, just out of interest:

All Parliamentary Select Committees are cross party, DaisyAnne. That is where parliamentary work is really done.

It does make you wish more could be done cross party. I looked up the detail, just out of interest:

The Privileges Committee has seven members (including the chair). Conservative MPs are in a majority on the committee, with four MPs. There are two Labour MPs (one of whom currently chairs the committee), and one SNP MP. The balance of the committee reflects the broader balance of parties in the House of Commons as a whole.

I agree, they have done and excellent job.

I congratulate the Committee on its work thus far and commend its members - the Tory majority and the other MPs - for leaving their political prejudices at the door. Their interim report shows real cross-party diligence and lack of bias. One hopes Sunak will have the courage and integrity to ensure his Party supports their final recommendations - whatever they are - when they come before the Commons.

DaisyAnne

I thought it needed to be separate from the Sue Gray one but people can post on either, as suits them.

It is separate from the Sue Gray one. You've even posted on it.

It has a big extract from the interim report and a link to it. Posted much earlier today.

www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1321821-Johnson-bang-to-rights?msgid=29931293

Sky news are just dissecting the report - it doesn't sound good for Johnson.

I thought it needed to be separate from the Sue Gray one but people can post on either, as suits them.

Already a thread on this btw