Will Johnson senior get his knighthood?

Mark Thatcher is not a knight but a baronet. The title was conferred on his father and passed to the son when Thatcher senior died. It will pass to Mark Thatcher's eldest son when he dies and so on. I guess it was Mrs T's way of ensuring a lasting privilege for her male descendents. There was a scandal in the early 1920s surrounding the 'sale' of baronetcies by the Liberal government to raise Party funds which led to a 1925 Act prohibiting the sale of honours.

Oldbat1

Sorry I don’t know how to add things but on the Reuters News Page sunak was passing a comment about Father’s Day card saying he won’t be giving his father a knighthood. I’m sure Reuters wouldn’t be wrong.

I don't know why Sunak is burbling about Father's Day. It's not until June...

Mind you, so’s naming people who’ve helped you up the greasy pole.

I think naming a relative is crass btw.

Anyone who served as PM can put forward a list, there wouldn’t be any serving PM who would scrap it altogether tho certain names may be vetoed if there’s a good reason to do that.
The present PM will want to put forward his own list when he’s out of office.

Oreo

Daisymae

Grantanow

I think Sunak should scrap Johnson's honours list entirely. And Truss's too.

Definitely. The cost to the population if their premiership is incalculable.

They can’t.
Being PM gives them the right to do this.

Actually Sunak could scrap the list, or veto specific nominations if he decides to do so, as the decision rests with the current PM. The resigning PM’s list is only nominations, not a final list.

Daisymae

Grantanow

I think Sunak should scrap Johnson's honours list entirely. And Truss's too.

Definitely. The cost to the population if their premiership is incalculable.

They can’t.
Being PM gives them the right to do this.

Sorry I don’t know how to add things but on the Reuters News Page sunak was passing a comment about Father’s Day card saying he won’t be giving his father a knighthood. I’m sure Reuters wouldn’t be wrong.

Grantanow

I think Sunak should scrap Johnson's honours list entirely. And Truss's too.

Definitely. The cost to the population if their premiership is incalculable.

Mamardoit

Don't suppose he will do that. Someone might decide to scrap his. Tony Blair isn't a Sir is he but Ed Davy is. So is Mark Thatcher. I can't see why we carry on with it all.

Yes, Tony Blair is a Sir.

FannyCornforth

Don’t worry, it’s a nice diversion, especially from the lunacy that’s currently going on on the Lineker thread.
It’s obvious that the thread has been mentioned in the daily email, threads always go a bit bonkers when they are

I think that you can get Sky Arts on catch up if you have Sky

I don’t have Sky so it’s a bit hit and miss which programmes I catch. When I do channel hop it’s usually on Tales of the Unexpected. I aught to check the schedule.

Don't suppose he will do that. Someone might decide to scrap his. Tony Blair isn't a Sir is he but Ed Davy is. So is Mark Thatcher. I can't see why we carry on with it all.

I think Sunak should scrap Johnson's honours list entirely. And Truss's too.

Don’t worry, it’s a nice diversion, especially from the lunacy that’s currently going on on the Lineker thread.
It’s obvious that the thread has been mentioned in the daily email, threads always go a bit bonkers when they are

I think that you can get Sky Arts on catch up if you have Sky

MayBee70

FannyCornforth

No it’s me who’s confused, just ignore me MayBee

I’ll never ignore you! Did you see the Sky Arts programme on the Pre Raphaelites yesterday? I was going to start a thread on it but realised I’d already missed half of it! Anyways, back to politics….

Can it be seen on Catch Up?

I rather like the Pre Raphaelites

(Apologies for derailing)

I didn’t, no, thank you, I’ll look out for it

FannyCornforth

No it’s me who’s confused, just ignore me MayBee

I’ll never ignore you! Did you see the Sky Arts programme on the Pre Raphaelites yesterday? I was going to start a thread on it but realised I’d already missed half of it! Anyways, back to politics….

Can you be ‘Her Grace’?

Though, thinking on, a baronet is a 'Sir'. That's the lowest in the order of peerages. After that you're a Lord, or 'His Grace'

Maizie I don’t need to, as I am officially ‘The Sole Reader of the Daily Mail on GN’ , so I can refer to my personal copy

FannyCornforth

I thought that Dacre was already a Sir?

'Sir' (if he is one) is just a knighthood, Fanny.

A peerage is a step up and entitles him to a seat in the House of Lords.

But perhaps Johnson hasn't nominated him for a peerage (see the DM story I've just posted)

No it’s me who’s confused, just ignore me MayBee

FannyCornforth

I thought that Dacre was already a Sir?

I get my titles ( Lords and Sirs etc) mixed up but I think they’re trying to get him into the House of Lords again.

FannyCornforth

I thought that Dacre was already a Sir?

I wonder why I thought that

Even the Daily Mail disapproves!

But how about Fiona Bruce on QT excusing S Johnson for breaking his wife's nose because it was 'only a one off' 😲

How many times would she have had to have her nose broken before it became a matter for condemnation?

(And how about a bit of female solidarity in deploring domestic violence, Fiona?)