Braverman's propaganda

I, like SB , have a home, a tax paying job,a family and a history here. I am not displaced. I have not come here illegally and I am not looking for somewhere to live or a country to take me in.
In other words you are very lucky. But no room for compassion.

I have a theory that the government are deliberately housing migrants/ refugees in hotels and hostels in height profile places that aggravate the local population so that people in those areas will back their Rwanda proposal. As for not being able to access public services, that’s down to years and years of Tory cut backs. These people are just being used as scapegoats. I’m so ashamed of how the rest of the world views us now.

Two questions.
1) how many of you have hotels, hostels , other accommodation near you full of asylum seekers? I don't and however reasonable, kind, fair, nice I truly want to be, if I look deep into my honest soul, even though it is absolutely the wrong way to think, sadly, I do not want dozens or even hundreds of displaced, bored young men in the vicinity of where I live.
2) how many of you have ever been to Rwanda? I have. It is a beautiful country. It is rapidly developing and the people are delightful . And before any of you suggest that I go to live there, please consider that I, like SB , have a home, a tax paying job,a family and a history here. I am not displaced. I have not come here illegally and I am not looking for somewhere to live or a country to take me in.
And if that makes you believe me ro be a heartless, cruel, racist, then so be it.

For those people who disagree with moving people abroad who land on our shores, how do they propose dealing with them ?

We can’t get doctors’ appointments, there is a waiting for council properties. Would there be places in our schools ?Where are these thousands of people be housed safely ?

I want us to be humane. It’s a real conundrum.

I wonder how the Labour Party would deal with this difficult situation.

If this plan to control illegal immigration works then Labour can kiss goodbye to getting the keys to Number 10.
Whatever anyone here thinks about it, it’ll be a huge vote winner.

Whitewavemark2

I am sure that the Tory party having moved to the far right is beginning to leave some of its supporters behind.

I believe 40+ abstained from the vote - pity the spineless idiots didn’t vote against it.

Tugendhat and Ellwood voted for it. I honestly thought they wouldn’t.

According to SB rapid progress has been made with the Rwanda agreement. It is world-leading.
Of course.

Yes I agree Whitewave and they are paving the way to lose the next GE. Witness the support for Lineker.
I just wish there was something more substantial to replace them than the Tory-lite Labour Party, whom I will have to vote for by default.

WWM, quelle surprise.

I am sure that the Tory party having moved to the far right is beginning to leave some of its supporters behind.

I believe 40+ abstained from the vote - pity the spineless idiots didn’t vote against it.

She's trying to establish herself as the darling of the far right in the Tory Party - even if her various endeavours don't succeed she'll earn Brownie points for having tried.

The blame will be laid at the door of the wokerati, lefty lawyers, blah blah - instead of where it belongs, the party which has been in power for 13 years and let the situation get out of hand.

Delila

Apart from all other considerations, what on earth made her choose Rwanda?

Beggars can’t be choosers. Other countries were approached but the U.K. was told to b….r off.

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Callistemon21

^The policies contained within the bill are cruel in the extreme, an example x - a child that is born n the U.K. to a political asylum parent, will be transported the minute it reaches its 18th birthday^

That has happened for years, though. I remember when a family from Zimbabwe had asylum here and the daughter was being sent back to Zimbabwe as soon as she was 18 and said she would be forced to join Mugabe's army and she knew what the consequences of that would be.
Another young man who became 18 here had taken refuge in a church and was being sheltered there by church members.

It's inhumane.

The difference now though is that the child/adult will have no recourse to the law. Braverman has taken that jurisdiction away from the courts.

As part of the deal, we’ve got to have some of Rwanda’s unwanted folk too, haven’t we?
It’s a particularly dodgy exchange program I think.

Apart from all other considerations, what on earth made her choose Rwanda?

Lineker was not far from the truth with his tweet.

Braverman decided to take with her only right wing press and also excluded the BBC.
Only wanted positive coverage, which is extremely concerning.

The policies contained within the bill are cruel in the extreme, an example x - a child that is born n the U.K. to a political asylum parent, will be transported the minute it reaches its 18th birthday

That has happened for years, though. I remember when a family from Zimbabwe had asylum here and the daughter was being sent back to Zimbabwe as soon as she was 18 and said she would be forced to join Mugabe's army and she knew what the consequences of that would be.
Another young man who became 18 here had taken refuge in a church and was being sheltered there by church members.

It's inhumane.

Well, I was listening to the bill in depth and have been reading about it.

Quite frankly I think it is entirely unworkable, but the authority Braverman is taking to herself should alarm us very much indeed. I don’t think that there is any time in the UKs democratic history that we have had such an authoritarian government.

Apparently there is only room for 200 folk, so what is going to happen to the others who arrive on our shores? They have no recourse to law so will remain in limbo for ever?

The policies contained within the bill are cruel in the extreme, an example x - a child that is born n the U.K. to a political asylum parent, will be transported the minute it reaches its 18th birthday.

There are so many cruel details like that.

I have also been reading about the poor health care system, so if an asylum seekers health becomes gravely ill with say cancer - what then?

Rwanda is on the brink of all out war with The Congo so is Braverman still determined to send these folk there?

I would like to hear from those on here who take refugees into their homes or live next door to an establishment that homes them. Unfortunately I only know of one place not to far away that have found it to have caused so much trouble. It would be nice to hear of positive personal experiences. Only tgen can you get a true picture.

GagaJo

It isn't about the quality of the homes. It's attempting to whitewash a very despicable, cruel action.

I know that.

But, regardless, the comparison is stupid even on a superficial level because of the reason I said as well.

It isn't about the quality of the homes. It's attempting to whitewash a very despicable, cruel action.

I wouldn't want to be dumped in Rwanda irrespective of the accommodation!
I wouldn't want a relative of mine to be dumped there either.

This woman would be a joke if the whole concept wasn't "in real life" - awful.

GagaJo

Praising the quality of the homes for our expelled refugees.

Does the woman think the British people are stupid?

Perhaps she's comparing them to some of the mould-ridden, dripping hovels with collapsing ceilings that people live in in the UK.

It depends on how low the standard is set.