Johnson and Trump

Johnson is being given the opportunity to convinced the privileges committee (biased or otherwise) that he is did nothing wrong. He has a team of lawyers to help him to put his case and he believes that he will triumph. I can't wait to watch this tomorrow.

I am very worried that Johnson will not be held to account, he is such a slippery eel and his lies and corruption have never been confronted apart from him being given the sack from various employment.

If nothing is done if he is indeed found guilty of misleading parliament then our democracy will have yet another brick chipped from its edifice.

MaizieD

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2 I wasn’t defending BJ.

I just think that it has become so blatantly obvious that he has been economical with the truth no matter who was on the privileges committee it would be nigh on impossible to put together an impartial panel.

So you think he should be let off because everyone knows he's a congenital liar?

No I have repeatedly posted on GN that BJ should be held to account.

I was just pointing out the blatantly obvious that it is probably impossible to get an unbiased panel

Of course, whatever the Privileges Committee recommends it is up to Parliament to accept or reject their findings as they have a vote on whether or not to do so. A vote that, I understand, they will not be whipped for.

So if the committee recommends sanctions and Parliament votes in favour of accepting them, what then? Will his supporters claim that all the MPs who vote in favour are biased against him? Would we then have the sorry spectacle of the UK's Legislative body (you know, the people who make the law) being pursued thorough the law courts? (Though I'm not sure that would even be possible)

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2 I wasn’t defending BJ.

I just think that it has become so blatantly obvious that he has been economical with the truth no matter who was on the privileges committee it would be nigh on impossible to put together an impartial panel.

So you think he should be let off because everyone knows he's a congenital liar?

Whitewavemark2 I wasn’t defending BJ.

I just think that it has become so blatantly obvious that he has been economical with the truth no matter who was on the privileges committee it would be nigh on impossible to put together an impartial panel.

His defence is that it wasn't him but he blames his advisers and he was too busy to know all the details. So what about all those times he stood up at the covid briefings reading the rules etc ? Can he really say "it wasn't me?" It doesn't surprise me - he wouldn't know the truth if it hit him in the face. Hell get away with it unfortunately.

I'm not altogether sure that Harman 'repeatedly' stated her opinion that Johnson lied, GG13. Do you have any evidence to validate that claim?

Could also point out that Johnson was fined for breaking the law on 'gatherings' during covid. If he believed that the fine was unjustified he could have appealed it at the time.

GrannyGravy13

If this was a court of law it would be rendered invalid as HH has repeatedly on record stated that in her opinion BJ has lied, so not impartial as the Chairperson should be.

It isn’t just HH, but the whole committee have said that it appears Johnson has lied. The committee don’t forget, is weighted in favour of the Tories.

The point is that this isn’t a court of law, however, evidence has been presented to the committee and it appears to them that Johnson indeed mislead parliament, however, his evidence is yet to be heard and I shan’t be able to watch as going out to eat and theatre tomorrow😡

If this was a court of law it would be rendered invalid as HH has repeatedly on record stated that in her opinion BJ has lied, so not impartial as the Chairperson should be.