Ugandan MPs pass bill imposing death penalty for homosexuality

As I understand it, BEING a homosexual isn't illegal (or unscriptural) but engaging in homosexual acts is. St Paul didn't mince his words. He was firmly saying that engaging in homosexual practice is wrong. There are a number of Bible believing homosexual vicars eg Vaughn Roberts who find it difficult not being in a deep and meaningful relationship with someone of the same sex, but for whom biblical authority is paramount. Don't get me wrong - people shouldn't be put to death for being homosexual or engaging in homosexual acts. But trying to wriggle out of what the new testament clearly says is understandable but wrong.

Wyllow3

This is true and I find it very difficult to understand or accept.

I think that quite a lot of the population in Africa still live a rural farming life and couples are expected to procreate to keep family- and working-life going. Even in the awful slums around large cities a family with more working members is probably better off.
This doesn't excuse their outlook but it does explain it a little.
Also the dreadful ethics of a more old-fashioned Christianity.

And other countries Blossoming it is as you say horrifying.

So are these people claiming that when god made gay and lesbian people s/he/it made a mistake?

I didn’t post for clicks Baggs, I posted because I was horrified. I didn’t post about religious beliefs either. I’m equally horrified by the way homosexuals are treated in Russia.

Couldn't see anything in the link provided by Blossoming that this has anything to do with scripture.

Leviticus in the Old Testament as well as saying that a man who has sexual relations with another man should be put to death, also says this should happen to men who commit adultery with another man's wife, with his father's wife, with his d.i.l. and with an animal.

Anyone who curses their mother or father should also be put to death. Are all of these also punishable by death in Uganda or is it just homosexuality?

Many scriptures are taken out of context, including the Bible and Koran.

I cannot understand how it must feel to know that you risk being murdered by your Government because of who you are and who you love.

Interfering in independent countries is the cause of many wars.

This is an interesting explanation about sexual inclinations and behaviour. The author is explaining why some interpretations of scripture about homosexual behaviour could have been and still are being wrongly interpreted. It is not making excuses, just trying to understand why attitudes are as they are in places like Uganda.

www.bibleandhomosexuality.org/what-does-the-bible-say-about-homosexuality/

Doesn't it...

No, iam. Just that this thread seems a bit clickbaity.

Doesn't go without saying that most people in more secular countries find such practices shocking and always have?

Bags, are you suggesting I shouldn’t express outrage about gay men being thrown from buildings, 8 year old girls being subjected to FGM, because this is happening outside of the UK. (Yes I’m aware fgm is practised in secret in this country but illegally) and

many African bishops see homosexuality as an aberration

Biologically, it is an aberration. That doesn't mean we shouldn't tolerate it. After all there are a gazillion biological aberrations that no-one fusses about.

On the level of religious beliefs, we shouldn't be surprised at this happening in a conservatively Christian country. What happened to respecting other people's beliefs that we disagree with, which many on GN have argued for and expressed annoyance at my arguing that is is the people holding views we disagree with that we should respect, not the views themselves.

Which brings me to my next point, which is, in the current climate of 'decolonisation' of history and associated fashionable blah blah, isn't it a bit colonialist to be expressing outrage about a decision made in a now democratic former colony of Britain? This is a serious question. Who are we to want to our values to be imposed on another country?

All of the above does not change my own view that gay people should not be killed for living their lives as they wish. I'm just a bit surprised by the outrage expressed on here.

I meant difficult to accept as someone who believes faith should be compassion.

That's democracy at work!

This is true and I find it very difficult to understand or accept.

These regressive oppressive belief systems are influencing the Church of England because many African bishops see homosexuality as an aberration, goodness knows their views on trans/lesbian etc.
In view of historical links, we can expect an increase in asylum seekers from Uganda . Good luck to them

Yes it was, but they have been Independant since 1960, plenty of time to get rid of such discriminatory laws . They choose not too.
Hopefully the next generation may turn the tide.

Congress

Looks like its only OK for sure in 5 African countries, but there are caveats in one:
www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/countries-legalized-same-sex-relationships-africa/

I hope its taken up by the Pan African conger, but not holding my breath. Its interesting also that for some countries it meant changing colonial times anti-gay laws yes folks it was an empire idea first...

Galaxy

Call me cynical MaizieD but I doubt the international community will do anything, but I hope I am wrong.

I regret to say that I think you're right.

Call me cynical MaizieD but I doubt the international community will do anything, but I hope I am wrong.

It is hard to believe there is such a mindset in this day and age. What right has any government or state to dictate to anyone who they can love

This is totally barbaric and Sadly yet another country which I never be able to visit with my female partner for a holiday without the fear of being arrested and the possibility of a death sentence. It used to be any country which ended in “Stan” but now it appears that much of Africa is out of bounds.

Just awful and unbelievably regressive, on a par with The Middle Ages