Polarisation of society

Grany

If you are interested in politics in this country then watch Kier Starmer & The Establishment Coup from Double Down News
m.youtube.com/watch?v=mDaY6K5A2ql

Grany that video seems to have disappeared. The power of Israel?
There is a rather outlandish theory that Starmer is a right wing plant put there to make sure any Labour government stayed firmly to the right. I don't believe it. But some of his views on Israel and Palestine make me wonder about him sometimes.
The apartheid state is completely unacceptable.

If you are interested in politics in this country then watch Kier Starmer & The Establishment Coup from Double Down News
m.youtube.com/watch?v=mDaY6K5A2ql

Clip shown on twitter
Will he change his mind doubt it if he can't get a clue from clips like shown of Israeli occupation forces assault a Palistinian woman and her daughter at a military checkpoint in Bethlehem.

The labour leader has chosen to ignore the racism apartheid and ethnic cleansing being committed Zionists, and instead speaks out against a human rights organisation.

Israel practices apartheid, say Israelis. That creates a problem for Kier Starmer who has practically built his career on supporting Israel. He believes that antizionism is antisemitism and that Israel is not an racist apartheid state. He is wrong on both accounts. He says he disagrees with Amnesty International for labelling Israel an apartheid state.

Thats ok Dinahmo I had to check when Covid first hit and lock down. So Giving Evidence was correct 2019 Charities don't benefit from royal patronage. And royals don't do many engagements. They don't work hard should get an elected Head of State who will.

Thank you for correcting me. It's old age getting the better of me. Memory beginning to fail.

Dinahmo
December 21st 2019

Chinese epidemiologists with the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention published an article on 20th January 2020 stating that the first cluster of patients with ‘pneumonia of an unknown cause’ had been identified on 21st December 2019

Only first heard of Covid end 2019

Dinahmo
December 21st 2019

Chinese epidemiologists with the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention published an article on 20th January 2020 stating that the first cluster of patients with ‘pneumonia of an unknown cause’ had been identified on 21st December 2019

Only heard if covid end of 2019

She first visited in the 1970s.

I believe that Princess Anne first visited our local "Save The Children" charity shop and has been back at least three times since then.

Grany

"We know from the 2020 Giving Evidence report that royal patronage makes no difference to charitable giving. It's time charities woke up to the fact they're being used as a prop in the royal PR machine."

In 2020 the organisation Giving Evidence produced an independent report which found royal patronage made no discernible difference to UK charities. The report is here: giving-evidence.com/2020/07/16/royal-findings/

Funny that because it was referring to 2019 when apparently 74% of the charities with royal patronage didn't get any royal public engagements.

And what happened in 2019? For most of the year we were advised not to mingle and to self isolate. So to my mind it's surprising that any charities, let alone 26% of those with royal patronage had any royal public engagements.

I volunteered for 20 years fundraising for Save The Children. Princess Anne was their Patron and very active. If she was attending an event it was easy to get people to turn and pay up in the hopes that they might meet her.

This policy may not be aimed at you growstuff.

I don;t think you are likely to be a regular reader of The Daily Express, The Sun, Daily Mail or Telegraph.

Callistemon21

Thank you.

And I still believe Charles would prefer schools to have a tree rather than a portrait of him 🌳🤴

I'm sure some tree breeder could have come up with a new variant of something or other and named it after Prince Charles. That would have been a talking point for generations, so the trees and his name would have lived on long after we're all gone. Shame! (Maybe he'll do it anyway.)

I really don't want to see his picture in every public building I enter. I don't think they have portraits of his mother.

"We know from the 2020 Giving Evidence report that royal patronage makes no difference to charitable giving. It's time charities woke up to the fact they're being used as a prop in the royal PR machine."

In 2020 the organisation Giving Evidence produced an independent report which found royal patronage made no discernible difference to UK charities. The report is here: giving-evidence.com/2020/07/16/royal-findings/

Of course he would! He's not daft.

Thank you.

And I still believe Charles would prefer schools to have a tree rather than a portrait of him 🌳🤴

Callistemon, I appreciate and understand that sort of practical realism.

Charles spends your money every day,

My £1.50 per annum, um, how much is that per day?
£1.50 ÷ 365 = ?
My calculator is in the office, has anyone got one handy?

Good value, I say!
A President and all the trappings would cost just as much, not to mention yet more elections every four years.

Caleo

Grany wrote:
"Charles spends your money every day, in return for little work & a lifetime of privilege, status and influence. He gets exempted from laws the rest of us have to follow and is beyond any serious accountability, while ignoring accusations of corruption."

I am sure Charles is well aware of what you and I and most others think and knows that we know he is thinking about it all, and is working hard to serve as he ought to serve according to his principles which will be monarchist principles.
Politics is hard for me to understand so I like to read grans who know about monarchies and stuff like that.

Gransy is obviously ignorant of all the charity work Charles undertakes, in his position of" privilege. "

PS Grany. I agree with you however I also believe Charles is one of the nicer monarchs.

Grany wrote:
"Charles spends your money every day, in return for little work & a lifetime of privilege, status and influence. He gets exempted from laws the rest of us have to follow and is beyond any serious accountability, while ignoring accusations of corruption."

I am sure Charles is well aware of what you and I and most others think and knows that we know he is thinking about it all, and is working hard to serve as he ought to serve according to his principles which will be monarchist principles.
Politics is hard for me to understand so I like to read grans who know about monarchies and stuff like that.

growstuff

Trees for schools would have been a great idea! And would almost certainly outlive Charles and any picture of him.

That's what the Royal Family often do if they open a school, hospital etc - plant a tree!

Trees for schools would have been a great idea! And would almost certainly outlive Charles and any picture of him.

Glorianny

Just caught up on this. Really £8million on Charlie's picture in schools. When I first started teaching most schools still displayed the picture of Elizabeth (Annigoni?) they were given when she became queen. Can't remember seeing it in any of them when I retired. Will they have to display the one of Charles? Or can it be confined to the staff loo or a cupboard somewhere?
Wouldn't it have been great if £8 million had been spent on books or reopening libraries to commemorate his coronation.

I do think this is a potty idea but it's a Government minister who has decided this, not the Royal Family.

I think that spending that £8 million on trees for schools would be Charles's preference.