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Polarisation of society

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varian Wed 29-Mar-23 11:17:55

Former US President Barak Obama has told an Australian audience that Rupert Murdoch's media empire has fuelled a polarisation of society

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/29/rupert-murdoch-has-fuelled-polarisation-of-society-barack-obama-says

M0nica Fri 31-Mar-23 14:36:06

Can some of the people looking down on the little people who they know are constantly led by the nose by Murdoch and his cronies to vote for people that they, the superior ones, know are absoutely wrong, please tell us what their sources are for information that is completely unbiased and unprejudiced in any form, leaning neither to right or left in reporting events and make no comments on everything, nor suggesting whether they approve or dislike anything.

I am sure many of us buying and reading papers nd magazines across the political spectrum would be really glad to know.

Galaxy Fri 31-Mar-23 13:05:54

Unbelievable. Lecturing on the polarisation of society whilst calling people names.

Caleo Fri 31-Mar-23 12:54:37

Quite right Granny Gravy. It's not the fault of Daily Mail readers that they tend to have have dim ideas.

Fleurpepper Fri 31-Mar-23 12:35:42

Well I tend to agree, using such terms is not helpful.

However, anyone who believes the that is printed in the DM must be at the very least gullible, but possibly worse if it matches their sentiments about immigrants, foreigners, etc.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 31-Mar-23 12:12:21

Grantanow I actually think that when folks starting calling sectors of the electorate dimwits they have lost any credibility.

crazygranny Fri 31-Mar-23 12:03:21

It's Rupert Murdoch who should be indicted for his role in the near loss of American democracy!

Galaxy Fri 31-Mar-23 11:19:24

How the dimwits are being manipulated?
That people can use phrases like this and think they are the 'goodies'.

Caleo Fri 31-Mar-23 11:14:41

Grantanow, I expect you would agree that children at school should be taught sceptical judgement. If they are not taught how to evaluate by use of the enlightenment idea of scepticism then the school is not doing its job.

Grantanow Fri 31-Mar-23 09:56:51

I sometimes read the Wail to understand how the dimwits are being manipulated and frankly because it makes me laugh. I read other mainstream papers too with a critical eye.

Casdon Fri 31-Mar-23 09:14:54

tickingbird

Casdon

Ha ha

Strange you find it laughable. The hell unleashed on the people of Iraq and the world on the back of Blair’s phoney war is anything but funny. Wine and cake in a garden, however……..

You misunderstand tickingbird, what was laughable was your attempt to make a cheap political point when Johnson has made £1m from speeches in the last few months after completely cocking up this country and our future. I wasn’t condoning Blair’s actions in Iraq, he made a bad political mistake.

loopyloo Fri 31-Mar-23 09:11:12

All reporting is selective.

tickingbird Fri 31-Mar-23 09:10:57

Casdon

Ha ha

Strange you find it laughable. The hell unleashed on the people of Iraq and the world on the back of Blair’s phoney war is anything but funny. Wine and cake in a garden, however……..

Casdon Fri 31-Mar-23 09:06:11

M0nica

As everyone on this thread is totally unaffected by the attempts by Murdoch and others to sway our votes, could they say who are th people who follow him so slavishly.

As only 25% of the population read a newspaper every day, and fewer buy them, Who sways the other 75%?

Have you read the thread though Monica, Murdoch’s empire pervades all types of media, worldwide, it’s not about newspapers specifically?

M0nica Fri 31-Mar-23 09:00:40

As everyone on this thread is totally unaffected by the attempts by Murdoch and others to sway our votes, could they say who are th people who follow him so slavishly.

As only 25% of the population read a newspaper every day, and fewer buy them, Who sways the other 75%?

ronib Fri 31-Mar-23 08:42:15

Rebekah Brooks poised to take over the top job from Murdoch it seems….

ronib Fri 31-Mar-23 08:36:34

Katie59 I thought the whole point to Obama’s argument was that the electorate didn’t decide? Murdoch decides and it happens?

Starmer as director of public prosecutions had been involved with the decision to prosecute Rebekah her surname escapes me. She was acquitted.

Casdon Fri 31-Mar-23 08:35:47

Freya5

tickingbird

If a deeply corrupt, incompetent and lying former UK PM can earn £250,000 for an after dinner speech, why can't a successful former US President command a high fee?

Yes it’s shocking the amount of money Tony Blair’s earned since leaving office!

Very well put. The people of Iraq and the world, are still paying for Blairs cosying up to Bush.

Ha ha
www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/dec/14/boris-johnson-makes-1m-from-speeches-after-leaving-downing-street

Freya5 Fri 31-Mar-23 08:31:04

tickingbird

^If a deeply corrupt, incompetent and lying former UK PM can earn £250,000 for an after dinner speech, why can't a successful former US President command a high fee?^

Yes it’s shocking the amount of money Tony Blair’s earned since leaving office!

Very well put. The people of Iraq and the world, are still paying for Blairs cosying up to Bush.

Katie59 Fri 31-Mar-23 08:28:20

What do we imagine Murdoch thinks of Starmer?

He probably hasn’t decided yet, there will be a lot of voters still to decide as well.

Katie59 Fri 31-Mar-23 08:23:03

Why does Murdoch do it - because he can!.

When you are ultra rich you need an activity to use you time up, interfering in politics is his life’s work and at 92 his is still successful, having that power keeps him going.

tickingbird Fri 31-Mar-23 08:21:08

If a deeply corrupt, incompetent and lying former UK PM can earn £250,000 for an after dinner speech, why can't a successful former US President command a high fee?

Yes it’s shocking the amount of money Tony Blair’s earned since leaving office!

ronib Fri 31-Mar-23 07:41:05

Murdoch has not picked prime ministers with much staying power with his alleged preferred candidates not lasting a full term of office - events overtook Cameron, May and BJ. Democracy still at work therefore?

Do we assume Sunak is in Murdoch’s pocket by now?

What do we imagine Murdoch thinks of Starmer?

Dickens Thu 30-Mar-23 23:09:36

Dinahmo

Dickens

Also, why is Murdoch that interested in the political system in the UK when the USA must give him much better returns?

Power?

These words from an Anthony Hilton column for the Evening Standard...

"I once asked Rupert Murdoch why he was so opposed to the European Union. "That’s easy,' he replied. ^"When I go into Downing Street they do what I say; when I go to Brussels they take no notice."^

And tax

That, too.

And greed.

Dinahmo Thu 30-Mar-23 21:39:19

Dickens

^Also, why is Murdoch that interested in the political system in the UK when the USA must give him much better returns?^

Power?

These words from an Anthony Hilton column for the Evening Standard...

"I once asked Rupert Murdoch why he was so opposed to the European Union. "That’s easy,' he replied. ^"When I go into Downing Street they do what I say; when I go to Brussels they take no notice."^

And tax

Dickens Thu 30-Mar-23 20:36:43

Also, why is Murdoch that interested in the political system in the UK when the USA must give him much better returns?

Power?

These words from an Anthony Hilton column for the Evening Standard...

"I once asked Rupert Murdoch why he was so opposed to the European Union. "That’s easy,' he replied. "When I go into Downing Street they do what I say; when I go to Brussels they take no notice."