Thank you Britain for signing up to destroy my home

MayBee70 Kemi Badenoch is apparently international trade secretary and her job is to make new trade deals with the global community.

I admit it has been quite slow in getting started but this is where we are as a country. Sky News has a very small clip of an interview with her.

Since most people would agree that the economy of the UK is in poor shape, I would like to know why global trade agreements are such a bad policy?

My first thought was "since when was the UK in the Pacific?"

Kandinsky

Unless you walk or cycle to your holiday in the Maldives, I don’t think you’re really that bothered about saving the planet.

Judgemental comments cut no ice I’m afraid, as you know nothing about me or my life.

Keep to the subject without being personal, you will find it a much better way forward.

Planet will be fine it's the people you need to worry about.

I have no grandchildren, so I'm not worried about them.

Wonder if you have descendants Kandinsky?. They'll be OK knowing that when there was still time to stop climate change, Grandma K thought it was better to make fatuous jokes on social media.

Unless you walk or cycle to your holiday in the Maldives, I don’t think you’re really that bothered about saving the planet.

ronib

Daisymae

This was the driver to leave the EU. An avoidance of checks and balances. Let's just line our pockets and to hell with the repercussions.

I wonder why it’s okay to keep the UK in poverty? The EU is not perfect and in any case, we’re out of it. I really object to being stuck with the mindset that keeps this country from moving on and up.

And how exactly have we moved up since we left the EU?

So what you're saying is that we should just not bother because we won't make any difference? At what point will we become relevant. 5%? 10%?

We will be lending our support to a trade that is indefensible. We're not leading the way by showing how awful it is, we're saying its OK because it makes money.

Global Britain is it? What a disgrace we are.

A lot of whataboutery there, ronib.

There are none so blind as those who will not see Ronib sadly you wont be the only person on here willing to stand and watch the earth destriyed because "Kemi "or some other selfservative thinks its OK .
Your grandchildren wont thank you for THIS !!

Apparently it is a good thing to buy products where the palm oil is sustainable but with this terrible deal are we still going to be able to tell sustainable from unsustainable?

Of course we should have stayed in the EU, nanna8, but you won't convince some people. I am in complete despair about what we are doing to our planet, and am inclined to agree with FannyCornforth that perhaps we, as a species, need to be removed.

volver3

This is what I'm trying to say:

The UK doesn't buy 1% of its palm oil from Malaysia, it buys 1% of Malaysia's palm oil. These 2 things are not the same.

Kemi says palm oil is a good product. How? What makes it good?

The tariff situation does not scale; if there are no tariffs at all the we will buy more of it and hence cause more damage.

Just because Kami says it, doesn't make it true.

1 per cent of Malaysia’s palm oil bought by the Uk? Maybe go attack the other 99 per cent if you want to stop deforestation?

In reply to ww2

It makes sense to try and find out what Kemi Badenoch had to say on the deal as you do have a very partisan approach to presenting your side of a story.
Doesn’t mean I agree with either of you but a fuller perspective is important surely?

This is what I'm trying to say:

The UK doesn't buy 1% of its palm oil from Malaysia, it buys 1% of Malaysia's palm oil. These 2 things are not the same.

Kemi says palm oil is a good product. How? What makes it good?

The tariff situation does not scale; if there are no tariffs at all the we will buy more of it and hence cause more damage.

Just because Kami says it, doesn't make it true.

Daisymae

This was the driver to leave the EU. An avoidance of checks and balances. Let's just line our pockets and to hell with the repercussions.

I wonder why it’s okay to keep the UK in poverty? The EU is not perfect and in any case, we’re out of it. I really object to being stuck with the mindset that keeps this country from moving on and up.

volver3 what exactly are you trying to say?

This was the driver to leave the EU. An avoidance of checks and balances. Let's just line our pockets and to hell with the repercussions.

ronib

Anyone watch Kemi Badenoch explain that the Uk buys about 1 per cent of its palm oil from Malaysia and that dropping the tariff from 2 per cent to 0 is not going to cause deforestation in Malaysia? Palm oil is actually a very good product.

Also the EU buys in products which are also harmful to the environment. So swings and roundabouts come to mind…….

Ohhh look, a flying pig...

The UK buys about 1% of Malaysia's palm oil. That's not the same as what you wrote.

ronib

Anyone watch Kemi Badenoch explain that the Uk buys about 1 per cent of its palm oil from Malaysia and that dropping the tariff from 2 per cent to 0 is not going to cause deforestation in Malaysia? Palm oil is actually a very good product.

Also the EU buys in products which are also harmful to the environment. So swings and roundabouts come to mind…….

What are you talking about😡.

Yes it seems to be in so much.

I think that the best way is to cook absolutely everything from scratch using butter where necessary and never margarine. But it is also in shampoo, cosmetics etc.

I’m sure if the movement was large enough, products would display the fact that they didn’t use or sell palm oil.

I am hoping that future governments can withdraw from the Malaysia agreement.

I see that the USA has withdrawn because of the low standards, with no benefit.

nanna8

Maybe if they had stayed with Europe they would have been discouraged from making deals like this.

Australia is part of this group, nanna8 ☹

FannyCornforth

It is absolutely unbearable WW
We are such an evil species.
I’m going to get stick for this, but I do think it will be a good thing when we eventually get wiped out.
We are like a vile virus destroying our host

It was reported on a programme a while ago that there are only 1,030 (?) Highland gorillas left in the world.

I said to DH "Imagine if the news report said 'there are only 1,030 humans left in the world'"

He replied dourly "Well, at least the Earth might have a chance to recover".

This is just not acceptable, we had a chance to make a difference here.

Anyone watch Kemi Badenoch explain that the Uk buys about 1 per cent of its palm oil from Malaysia and that dropping the tariff from 2 per cent to 0 is not going to cause deforestation in Malaysia? Palm oil is actually a very good product.

Also the EU buys in products which are also harmful to the environment. So swings and roundabouts come to mind…….

It’s in so many things tickingbird

Just appalling. Check labels and don’t buy anything that uses palm oil. Every little bit helps.