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Brexit finally ends channel Crossing

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Whitewavemark2 Mon 03-Apr-23 11:19:38

Just not in the right direction 😄😄

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Fleurpepper Wed 05-Apr-23 19:08:23

Wow- where is she? Fingers crossed. Hope she will love it all the same.

varian Wed 05-Apr-23 19:05:56

One of our grandaughters spent 38 hours on a coach with her schoolfriend because of brexit delays, missing one day of her hard saved up for first ski trip. I hope it doesn't take her so long to get home.

Fleurpepper Wed 05-Apr-23 19:05:20

Norah

GrannyGravy13 We had children in Private Schools in 80’s through to end 90’s, the school stopped ski trips due to low take up. The pupils preferred to go with friends and family as opposed to roughing it

Same, except the yrs. Our children hate coaches, ferrys, hostels, all of it.

They want to be with family and friends - actually skiing, not wasting time, sleeping in bad conditions, and eating food they don't care for.

Our GC are also excellent on the slopes, want only slope time.

Throw us all in the car, through Tunnel, onward to the slopes!

Well, I can say I am proud of having taken kids skiing who did not mind- because that was the only chance they'd got. We did it in our own holiday time, organised second-hand ski clothes sales or hire, went to Hostels and travelled by coach- so the trip of a life-time for some would be less than half the price of other ski trips by plane and to 'Hôtel style' accom.

Kids and parents thanked us so much, time and time again, for giving them that chance.

And yes, our kids loved both- going with us by car, or going with their own schools (with much higher prices!).

This thread has totally lost the plot!

Jaxjacky Wed 05-Apr-23 19:02:36

Well we’re not rich, so our granddaughter has gone with school, suffering the accommodation and food offered ‘roughing it’.
I’ll see what she says when she gets back.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 05-Apr-23 18:57:47

varian

Yes the proper rich kids went ski-ing with their families.

Meow…

varian Wed 05-Apr-23 18:50:03

Yes the proper rich kids went ski-ing with their families.

Norah Wed 05-Apr-23 18:48:41

GrannyGravy13 We had children in Private Schools in 80’s through to end 90’s, the school stopped ski trips due to low take up. The pupils preferred to go with friends and family as opposed to roughing it

Same, except the yrs. Our children hate coaches, ferrys, hostels, all of it.

They want to be with family and friends - actually skiing, not wasting time, sleeping in bad conditions, and eating food they don't care for.

Our GC are also excellent on the slopes, want only slope time.

Throw us all in the car, through Tunnel, onward to the slopes!

GrannyGravy13 Wed 05-Apr-23 17:31:33

M0nica

Children in private schools, like other children, go on school trips, for which coaches are used. What is more they stay in Youth Hostels, camp sites and other boarding schools in the country they are visiting.

My children went ot private schools in the 1980s and you can throw any ideas of cossetted rich (actually most weren't, just armed services and diplomatic) they were anything but. Parents of children in state schools would have expected much better accommodation and travel arrangements on school trips.

We had children in Private Schools in 80’s through to end 90’s, the school stopped ski trips due to low take up. The pupils preferred to go with friends and family as opposed to roughing it

Several of our children have gone on ski trips in sixth form college, hated the coach journey, wasn’t impressed with the hotel/food and as they were accomplished skiers ended up helping the beginners which they found to be the most enjoyable part of the whole week.

M0nica Wed 05-Apr-23 17:20:39

Children in private schools, like other children, go on school trips, for which coaches are used. What is more they stay in Youth Hostels, camp sites and other boarding schools in the country they are visiting.

My children went ot private schools in the 1980s and you can throw any ideas of cossetted rich (actually most weren't, just armed services and diplomatic) they were anything but. Parents of children in state schools would have expected much better accommodation and travel arrangements on school trips.

Norah Wed 05-Apr-23 15:58:01

GrannyGravy13

Norah

CoolCoco

It was even faster before Brexit , but its much much slower now when boarding the Eurostar passenger train.

I've never been on the Eurostar train, is it lovely?

The Tunnel, in car, is fantastic - fast, far less emissions as from an on water ferry, efficient. Our home in Suffolk into France in no time at all.

We tend to put the car on the Euro shuttle, but have gone down to the Alps by Eurostar.

Train was packed to the gills, luggage storage was an issue (we were going skiing so had our skis/boots as well as cases).

Much prefer the shuttle as I like the freedom to throw everything in the boot of the car.

Indeed.

We need space for cases, boots, skis, extra pillows - so much.

Norah Wed 05-Apr-23 15:55:44

GrannyGravy13

HouseplantQueen rich kids do not go by coach on school trips, they go with their parents and family by car or plane.

They wouldn’t be overly impressed with the food and accommodation on arrival or even the ski resort.

Indeed. Does anyone really think rich kids ferry in a coach?

Joseanne Wed 05-Apr-23 15:44:16

GrannyGravy13

HouseplantQueen rich kids do not go by coach on school trips, they go with their parents and family by car or plane.

They wouldn’t be overly impressed with the food and accommodation on arrival or even the ski resort.

Private jet GrannyGravy13! No kidding, we had a pupil whose parents sent the helicopter to transfer them to Bristol Airport for the waiting private jet and on to ski chalet in Switzerland.

Joseanne Wed 05-Apr-23 15:39:21

I prefer Eurostar train to Le Tunnel by car. Daft reasons, but I like St. Pancras for a bit of shopping and proseco first, and also I feel more claustrophic in my car, in a metal box. (Like doubly trapped!) The downside is not having as much space for luggage.
I have great admiration for DH who towed our big caravan onto the ferries year after year parking it with aplomb amongst the lorries.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 05-Apr-23 15:31:47

HouseplantQueen rich kids do not go by coach on school trips, they go with their parents and family by car or plane.

They wouldn’t be overly impressed with the food and accommodation on arrival or even the ski resort.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 05-Apr-23 15:28:57

Norah

CoolCoco

It was even faster before Brexit , but its much much slower now when boarding the Eurostar passenger train.

I've never been on the Eurostar train, is it lovely?

The Tunnel, in car, is fantastic - fast, far less emissions as from an on water ferry, efficient. Our home in Suffolk into France in no time at all.

We tend to put the car on the Euro shuttle, but have gone down to the Alps by Eurostar.

Train was packed to the gills, luggage storage was an issue (we were going skiing so had our skis/boots as well as cases).

Much prefer the shuttle as I like the freedom to throw everything in the boot of the car.

Norah Wed 05-Apr-23 15:17:44

CoolCoco

It was even faster before Brexit , but its much much slower now when boarding the Eurostar passenger train.

I've never been on the Eurostar train, is it lovely?

The Tunnel, in car, is fantastic - fast, far less emissions as from an on water ferry, efficient. Our home in Suffolk into France in no time at all.

CoolCoco Wed 05-Apr-23 15:11:03

The Tories have managed to Stop The Boats - but going the wrong way!

CoolCoco Wed 05-Apr-23 15:10:00

It was even faster before Brexit , but its much much slower now when boarding the Eurostar passenger train.

Norah Wed 05-Apr-23 14:31:49

HousePlantQueen Next thing the Brexiteers will be telling us that they voted to leave so that 'rich kids' could no longer go on their elitist ski trips, all done for the purpose of levelling up dontcha know?

The only Brexit impact I can think applies is we wait for checks because of. It is relatively seamless, fast, and easy at the Tunnel.

HousePlantQueen Wed 05-Apr-23 11:48:55

Katie59

4allweknow

Haven't heard the same about other ferry ports in UK. Some don't go to France eg Denmark. How about tge Scandinavian cruises, never hear of issues with passport checks when disembarking from the ship to go on a visit. Why the problem at Dover at Easter holiday time?

You’re right excursions from cruise ships dont go through passport control, my guess is that the Cruise Company have a special agreement, and a port official supervises passengers getting on and off the ship.
Some countries are sensitive, does getting off a cruise ship for an excursion in Miami need a US ESTA ?.

Cruise ships have to send a manifest detailing their passengers to every port they visit, the usual passport clearance is done at port/airport when you arrive in your embarkation country. All Uk passengers have to have a US ESTA before flying into USA, irrespective of whether you get off the ship after boarding.

HousePlantQueen Wed 05-Apr-23 11:45:14

M0nica

If we are going to start this rich/poor argument, what about all the people who cannot afford to go on holiday at all let alone think of travelling to France.

The rich kid/poor kid argument in all its many forms always strikes me as the last throw of those who know their case is indefensible.

Next thing the Brexiteers will be telling us that they voted to leave so that 'rich kids' could no longer go on their elitist ski trips, all done for the purpose of levelling up dontcha know?

Katie59 Wed 05-Apr-23 10:26:24

4allweknow

Haven't heard the same about other ferry ports in UK. Some don't go to France eg Denmark. How about tge Scandinavian cruises, never hear of issues with passport checks when disembarking from the ship to go on a visit. Why the problem at Dover at Easter holiday time?

You’re right excursions from cruise ships dont go through passport control, my guess is that the Cruise Company have a special agreement, and a port official supervises passengers getting on and off the ship.
Some countries are sensitive, does getting off a cruise ship for an excursion in Miami need a US ESTA ?.

Joseanne Wed 05-Apr-23 08:39:59

I think it is the mention of the word ski that gets some people going on the "rich" kids thing.
Which is wrong anyway, because kids from extra wealthy families are just as likely to end up in a yurt in Cornwall.

M0nica Wed 05-Apr-23 08:33:21

If we are going to start this rich/poor argument, what about all the people who cannot afford to go on holiday at all let alone think of travelling to France.

The rich kid/poor kid argument in all its many forms always strikes me as the last throw of those who know their case is indefensible.

Fleurpepper Tue 04-Apr-23 22:09:29

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this!