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Primrose53 Tue 04-Apr-23 08:53:38

growstuff

Primrose53

I never understood why friends who were born before end April 1953 got their pensions years before me. For being born just 6 months after them 4 years were added to my wait.

No, it wasn't. If you're going to moan about something, get your facts straight and people will take you more seriously.

What a very rude reply!! It was a slip of the finger. My friend was born April 53 and got her SP in July 2016 aged 63 years 2 months and 22 days. Another friend born Feb 53 got hers in 2015 while I had to wait until July 2018.

Never mind people not taking me seriously, you should be more concerned about people seeing you as a nasty piece if work.

Doodledog Tue 04-Apr-23 08:32:16

Personally I'd be grateful if, on social media in general, women would stop saying 'I knew, so others should have known'. You gave no idea of the circumstances of other people, then or now. Govt should have sent everyone individual letters and didn't. Some women, in their early 40s, were working flat out 16, 17 hours a day in 1993.
I couldn’t agree more, Chardy. The sneering tone of some posts, and the way they basically accuse people they don’t know of lying is offensive. Why would anyone lie about it? It is also extremely arrogant to assume that you know what other people think or know.

I was aware before pension age (I am still before pension age) but I did not get a letter or any other communication about the increase. I am very aware (from voluntary work) of others who did not know, however, and of women who found out a year or so before they thought they could retire. Also, knowing and being able to make up the shortfall are two different things.

I just don’t understand the motives of those who disbelieve other women, and who sneer at them in the way many do. If anyone can explain why they think people would lie about this I would be interested to hear.

Chardy Tue 04-Apr-23 07:31:21

The 1953 women were treated badly (I'm older, btw).
For every month later you were born, your pension date went up 3 months. So a Jan 1953 baby retired 3 years younger than a Dec 1953 baby.
Personally I'd be grateful if, on social media in general, women would stop saying 'I knew, so others should have known'. You gave no idea of the circumstances of other people, then or now. Govt should have sent everyone individual letters and didn't. Some women, in their early 40s, were working flat out 16, 17 hours a day in 1993.
Now to increase SPA by one year, ten years notice must be given. Did some WASPIs get 60 years' notice?

rubysong Tue 04-Apr-23 00:43:55

I was born in 1951 and knew for many years that I wouldn't get my pension at 60. It was in the newspapers many years before and there was a government website to check the exact date I became eligible so I never felt I wasn't aware of the changes. I find it hard to believe that people expected their pensions at 60.

Blossoming Tue 04-Apr-23 00:14:47

Thank you for the update CvD66

maddyone Mon 03-Apr-23 23:33:28

Primrose53

I never understood why friends who were born before end April 1953 got their pensions years before me. For being born just 6 months after them 4 years were added to my wait.

I was born in March 1953 and I reached pensionable age at 63 years old, so not years before you, as it appears you were born in September or October 1953. I assume you reached pensionable age round about your 63rd birthday, as did I. That’s because we both were affected by the sliding scale (sliding upwards) as the woman’s pensionable age was equalised with men’s pensionable age. The rights and wrongs of this can be debated till the cows come home, but you were not deprived of four years of pension that your friends received unless they were very much older than you. A woman born six months before you, ie me, was not paid state pension until age 63, and many women born after you are having to wait till their 66th birthday.

Did your friends have an occupational pension that they could claim earlier?

Allsorts Mon 03-Apr-23 23:03:08

I thought everyone would check their Orbison entitlement a long time before retiring, know I fund a few years before.

growstuff Mon 03-Apr-23 21:34:35

Primrose53

I never understood why friends who were born before end April 1953 got their pensions years before me. For being born just 6 months after them 4 years were added to my wait.

No, it wasn't. If you're going to moan about something, get your facts straight and people will take you more seriously.

Primrose53 Mon 03-Apr-23 20:59:16

I never understood why friends who were born before end April 1953 got their pensions years before me. For being born just 6 months after them 4 years were added to my wait.

rafichagran Mon 03-Apr-23 20:02:17

Well said CvD66 Waspi women born in the 50s have suffered. I will be 66 this month, I have worked 6 years longer for my pension. I am one of the lucky ones, some have died waiting, and some have ill health.
I did not get my letter until very late. I have been able to work, but their are some tragic stories of suffering, women having to sell their homes, women who are/were to ill to work. Women who were doing more manual jobs which took a toll on their health.

eazybee Mon 03-Apr-23 14:53:17

What injustice?
A collection of women who don't bother to check on their pension rights while they are working and then claim ignorance as an excuse.

CvD66 Mon 03-Apr-23 14:26:34

In an unprecedented out of court settlement the Parliamentary and Health Services Ombudsman concedes the Stage 2 report into the injustice suffered by 19502 women is flawed and must be reconsidered!
twitter.com/WASPI_Campaign/status/1642664209921064963?s=20
Fantastic effort by WASPI team who never gave up.
For all of us affected by this judgement, it is great news. Let us also hope that future individuals will not suffer such appalling injustice as changes get made to the pension age !