Peter Murrell arrested

It's not that Volver, it's because I saw the vile despicable things she posted online that rendered her unacceptable to me.

Saw her live a few weeks ago. Cried my eyes out.

But you know, she's Scottish, used to run a pub and supports independence.

So not to everybody's taste.

'Bless Janey Godley'

twitter.com/i/status/1644713678321643520

Janey, bless her.

Germanshepherdsmum

It often does Calli - to catch them at home, asleep and unawares, with no opportunity to destroy any evidence.

I don't mean the timing.

Yes, I know how it works but so many? And so publicly?

If the Polis had called and knocked on the door politely mid morning, there would have been allegations of a tip off/different treatment, so like always, they cannot win.

It often does Calli - to catch them at home, asleep and unawares, with no opportunity to destroy any evidence.

Aveline

The Police dawn raid was certainly OTT

You'd have thought he was a serial killer and the police were looking for bodies.

Would this have happened if a person with not such a public profile was suspected of fraud?

Oreo maybe looking for memory stick or sim card? I'd have thought it was all a matter for a forensic accountant rather than searching through all those boxes etc.

Polis is used in the West of Scotland by some people.

The polis? Is this how some Scots say police? Or autocorrect.
When a celebrity’s involved the police always go OTT, look at what happened at Cliff Richard’s house.
The tent seemed overkill but maybe to stop gawkers?
Would have thought that all material stuff relating to the lost money would be long gone.The digital trail is the one to follow.

The Police dawn raid was certainly OTT

Whitewavemark2

So police arriving and erecting a blue tent then taking Murrell to question for over 12 hours. Over 20 officers have been seen at the house.

Politically someone will clearly know where the bodies are buried and bizarrely the police are now apparently digging up the couple’s garden. What on earth are they looking for? But they must have had a strong suspicion or lead that something is in the garden and now a designated crime scene.

It can be strongly suspected that Sturgeon knew that the ongoing police investigation had reached a critical mass and this pushed her into resignation.

Who told the police what? And did they delay the raid until after the election for new leader?, in which case I would have thought Forbes had a good case to demand a re-run now that the knowledge is out there.

The News Agents

Obviously we are all getting our information from the media, but can I say that I read that the garden was NOT dug up, rather the polis were photographed removing a spade/spades from the garage of the house.
Others have mentioned posting things relating to this online, and I saw a film posted of the scene in the street, and the narrator was saying some dreadful, libellous things. It’s so easy now to see how a story can survive and be exaggerated over time.

Meant for +volver*, not a comment on your post casdon

These figures don’t include NI, which I suspect has higher mortality rates. It’s a pity the map doesn’t include Scotland as well, as it’s helpful to have a visual representation of mortality rates by area I think - no surprise that rural England has the lowest rates. I also noted that the highest mortality rates in GB are in Blackpool, which could well be the result of the deliberate strategy to use B&Bs for people on benefits, resulting in the creation of a poverty hotspot. It’s just not a simple equation of current health policy relating directly to current mortality.

Great minds Katek

Sorry volver - x'd posts

Lowest life expectancy in Western Europe

NRS
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www.ons.gov.uk

Rather than all of us imaging what the various sources say, here's the link to the ONS figures for 2020.

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/causesofdeath/bulletins/avoidablemortalityinenglandandwales/latest

No surprise that the Scottish avoidable deaths figure is greater, but it has been narrowing on the rest of the UK countries since 2002. Upturn for everybody since 2020; Covid, clearly. Figure 1.

Terrible rise in alcohol or drug related deaths for Scotland in recent years. But something is happening about the alcohol related deaths with the introduction of minimum level pricing. That's just coming through this year.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65017659

Casdon I have just googled information from Scottish sources and there’s quite a bit available online. King’s Fund, Nuffield, the Scottish government… I started with a search for excess Scottish deaths.
Don’t forget that Wales and England also have urban/rural populations.

ronib

Yes Casdon. Figures indicate that there is a discrepancy whether simply down to urban/rural or not.

Can you post the evidence please ronib? There is precious little data available comparing the four UK nations in my experience, so I’d be interested to see it.n

Yes Casdon. Figures indicate that there is a discrepancy whether simply down to urban/rural or not.

Casdon

ronib

nrscotland.gov.uk Scotland has a higher avoidable mortality rate at 336 per 100k.
England 257 per 100k
Wales 287 per 100k
Alcohol and drug related deaths feature.

These figures don’t prove anything though ronib, because current mortality rates are related to post industrial poverty and health inequalities and are a long term issue. If you drill down into the figures, you will find that the rural, wealthier areas and market town mortality rates are completely different to depressed, urban areas.

Exactly what I was going to say.
Thank you Casdon.

ronib

nrscotland.gov.uk Scotland has a higher avoidable mortality rate at 336 per 100k.
England 257 per 100k
Wales 287 per 100k
Alcohol and drug related deaths feature.

These figures don’t prove anything though ronib, because current mortality rates are related to post industrial poverty and health inequalities and are a long term issue. If you drill down into the figures, you will find that the rural, wealthier areas and market town mortality rates are completely different to depressed, urban areas.