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So, how worried should we be about AI?

(77 Posts)
Whitewavemark2 Tue 18-Apr-23 15:16:58

Always supposing I (we) understand exactly the potential threat.

Young members of my family were discussing it over dinner at Easter, and it felt like an eel - I thought I’d grasped it and understood and then off it slipped leaving me floundering again.

What I have read is that it will almost certainly be used to skew the election in the USA, so I guess the same could be true in the U.K.

The point is, that if I understood exactly how it works and who has control of it I would begin to understand its potential danger to our democracy.

Does anyone have a beginners guide?

FannyCornforth Tue 18-Apr-23 16:40:39

They do talk to each other, and they quickly turn nasty, as they are aping what humans do.
They have access to everything that is available on the internet and replicate it.
It really is very, very scary

FannyCornforth Tue 18-Apr-23 16:46:55

A very odd story.
It seems to me that it was obvious that it was AI as it can’t do hands.
Anyway, it’s interesting
news.sky.com/story/sony-world-photography-award-2023-winner-turns-down-top-prize-after-admitting-his-image-was-created-with-ai-12859800

FannyCornforth Tue 18-Apr-23 16:47:58

And here is the award winning photo.
Haunting, to say the least

FannyCornforth Tue 18-Apr-23 17:29:52

Just another example.
One wonders what the point of humanity is.
Get Mary Shelley on the phone…

FannyCornforth Tue 18-Apr-23 17:32:57

www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2022/artificial-intelligence-cancer-imaging

VioletSky Tue 18-Apr-23 17:33:41

I wonder if an AI can ever have rral imagination without direction, I think it's imagination that gives us a soul in a way

MerylStreep Tue 18-Apr-23 17:38:41

Fanny
Turkey was discussed on woman’s hour. Their breast cancer detection rate had gone up 14 % by using AI.

karmalady Tue 18-Apr-23 17:45:10

DS is very well versed in AI, due to work. He has already managed to get a new more progressive job within the organisation as any project management job will be gone within a few years. He has told me of some amazing things that AI can do already eg the conversation over the phone, as though you are speaking to a real person and that is minor compared to the potential

AI, in the wrong hands, will be an exponential evil bomb

AI does not just ape what humans do, they already think better than humans, already much better at working out problems and solutions . Really very scary for the future, china, n korea, russia

There is potential for good but I fear that as always that will be overturned by the many power-crazy people and also countries. It is a very frightening prospect tbh and I am glad not to be a child right now

Whitewavemark2 Tue 18-Apr-23 17:45:10

So is it possible for any AI system to cooperate with other AI systems set up and develop integration and control over what humans are trying to do?

What I am trying to say is, is it possible for them to get out of control - think of that AI system that has taught itself a language without any instruction from a human.

karmalady Tue 18-Apr-23 17:48:17

WW2, yes AI will eventually be able to take over the whole planet and humankind, apart from the controllers, will no longer be relevant. Next step will be an AI produced brain. It is beyond scary

VioletSky Tue 18-Apr-23 17:55:17

Most films are structured around the idea that AI becomes self replicating and when it does, humanity becomes competition to survival either because humans are angry at losing their jobs or humans are destroying the planet

Hithere Tue 18-Apr-23 18:07:48

Skynet, vs?

VioletSky Tue 18-Apr-23 18:14:27

Lol

I'll be back

VioletSky Tue 18-Apr-23 18:15:13

OK I'm back

But human imagination often forsees real problems right?

Hithere Tue 18-Apr-23 18:36:57

If it's like Data from Star Trek, we are good

VioletSky Tue 18-Apr-23 18:41:05

If they became as diverse as humans, we'd have Data and Terminator as options

I wonder who would win in a fight?

Whitewavemark2 Tue 18-Apr-23 18:43:37

I suppose the only consolation is that most of us (I’m 77) won’t live long enough to see it, but our children and grandchildren will.

Hetty58 Tue 18-Apr-23 18:49:55

Whitewavemark2, perhaps AI will save the planet - and our grandchildren will have a future? I think people are far more of a threat, more destructive and frightening than AI!

Whitewavemark2 Tue 18-Apr-23 18:51:20

Hetty58

Whitewavemark2, perhaps AI will save the planet - and our grandchildren will have a future? I think people are far more of a threat, more destructive and frightening than AI!

True

sodapop Tue 18-Apr-23 19:05:47

My children and grandchildren are already expressing their concerns about this.

FannyCornforth Wed 19-Apr-23 09:45:46

Did you hear it being discussed on Today?
I looked at yesterday’s Daily Mail last night, and there were three separate articles about AI.
One was all about AI models.
Big companies are using AI models as standard.

I think that in just a few weeks this will be similar to the pandemic, it will be being discussed constantly as it’s invading so many areas of our normal lives.

There’s the immediate threat which WW started the thread about; and then there is the further reaching thread, which could be apocalyptic

FannyCornforth Wed 19-Apr-23 09:46:02

Threat, not thread

Theexwife Wed 19-Apr-23 10:42:23

I asked the question on an AI answer generator, this is what it replied:

The level of concern about AI depends on the specific application and how it is being used. While there are certainly risks associated with AI, such as job displacement and privacy concerns, there are also many potential benefits, such as increased efficiency and improved decision-making. It's important to approach the development and use of AI with a balanced perspective, weighing the potential risks against the potential benefits and taking steps to mitigate any negative impacts. Ultimately, the future impact of AI will depend on how we choose to develop and deploy this technology in our society.

MaizieD Wed 19-Apr-23 10:49:10

Ultimately, the future impact of AI will depend on how we choose to develop and deploy this technology in our society.

That's not a very balanced answer, is it?

You can bet your life that there are people even now who are using, or intend to use, AI for rather less than noble purposes.. I think that AI should be capable of acknowledging that. Perhaps it is but doesn't want us to know...

Whitewavemark2 Wed 19-Apr-23 10:51:42

Theexwife

I asked the question on an AI answer generator, this is what it replied:

The level of concern about AI depends on the specific application and how it is being used. While there are certainly risks associated with AI, such as job displacement and privacy concerns, there are also many potential benefits, such as increased efficiency and improved decision-making. It's important to approach the development and use of AI with a balanced perspective, weighing the potential risks against the potential benefits and taking steps to mitigate any negative impacts. Ultimately, the future impact of AI will depend on how we choose to develop and deploy this technology in our society.

Good answer from the AI.

How does it reply to apparently taking an independent decision to learn another language.

This rather suggests that our choice of development and deployment is not the entire answer.