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I fear the rise of National Conservatism

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ronib Mon 24-Apr-23 13:50:33

It doesn’t translate into parliamentary votes/seats?

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Germanshepherdsmum Mon 24-Apr-23 13:47:46

A lot of people are pretty gullible and like what he says.

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ronib Mon 24-Apr-23 13:41:41

Farage is a bit too obvious?

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Germanshepherdsmum Mon 24-Apr-23 13:38:54

Farage is a dangerous man.

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ronib Mon 24-Apr-23 13:37:01

DaisyAnne if it’s any consolation, Richard Tice and Farage are not the most convincing. As for Rees Mogg, well can hardly stay awake when he talks. So where are we? Seriously worried about the connection between GB news, its American patrons and their ambitions . It is a bit alarming to be fair. I won’t be attending the meeting!

It will be interesting to see how the pm handles this faction. Certainly a thought provoking post.

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Germanshepherdsmum Mon 24-Apr-23 13:03:17

Thanks for bringing this to my attention Daisy. I confess I hadn’t heard of it. I have listened and I have looked at the website. As you know, I’m a Conservative (though not a party member) and I’m also a Christian. These people are seemingly a mixture of academics and religious zealots. I could imagine Hitler trotting this stuff out. It’s frightening. They are as far from traditional Conservatives as I can imagine. The new National Front in subtle camouflage? I sincerely hope they don’t gain a foothold - why on earth are JRM and Braverman speaking at their conference? They should be kicked out of the Conservative party.

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Whitewavemark2 Mon 24-Apr-23 11:14:00

Just going out but will pick it up later as I find it interesting

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DaisyAnne Mon 24-Apr-23 11:12:25

I have disliked the direction the Conservatives have taken but this is such a stark reflection of the 1930s that I fear it.

Not heard of them? This New Statesman Podcast by Andrew Marr may help you understand who and what they are.

They are holding a conference next month (15 - 17 May). Speakers are to include Jacob Rees Mogg, Michael Gove, Suella Braverman and Danny Kruger. There will be lots of our Union flags, apparently. GB News also seems strongly represented.

Marr is a very knowledgeable man, so can give a much better explanation about where this Nationalist party has come from and why, than I can.

He does explain what the Labour Party are offering - a stronger state built on less centralisation - in reply to the perceived problems that have given the extreme right power around the world to revive nationalism. (He is going to do an analysis of the left in this series)

He also explains the roots of this party, as shown by its website nationalconservatism.org/ and summarises what this means to Rishi Sunak and to the left.

Please watch it before you reply, and don't just guess what it is about. We should both know and understand what this is about and where it is coming from.

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