The Guardian has apologised after a cartoon depicting BBC chairman Richard Sharp was criticised as antisemitic.

volver3 any fish without fins or scales is offensive and forbidden to Jews, this covers both squid and octopus.

You have previously left GN because of the mocking of Nicola Sturgeon and the NSP, maybe have a little think of how you felt then and how Jews feel seeing that cartoon.

It is a f***ing octopus.

Yeah right and Madam Sturgeon is an honest politician and Scotland will one day be free 😂😂😂😂😂

Thank you for the clarification Rosie

volver3

Rosie51

Its not a squid, its an octopus. Which is a reference to an article about Goldman Sachs, who he used to work for. yep just like the nazi portrayal in their lovely cartoon, complete with Star of David.

What are you talking about?

Gave the wrong post should have been mine of 13:29:21

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volver3

Rosie51

Its not a squid, its an octopus. Which is a reference to an article about Goldman Sachs, who he used to work for. yep just like the nazi portrayal in their lovely cartoon, complete with Star of David.

What are you talking about?

My post 13:34:04 the nazi cartoon depicting an octopus in an antisemitic cartoon.

The squid is an anti semitic trope and The Guardian are aware of that as is the cartoonist. Volver’s attempts to further downplay such a blatant slur “it’s not a squid, it’s an octopus” show us all who she is - those of us who aren’t already aware that is. As for posts stating cartoons always exaggerate features - well I wonder what the reaction would be if Dianne Abbott was portrayed with big lips, wide nose and Afro hair. It’s racism, pure and simple. Pretty sickening to be honest and as for apologies being the end of it, that doesn’t cut it when black people are the subject matter. People are cancelled and lose their careers over any perceived slur.

I worry for people's ability to reason some days, I really do.

How on earth has the left wing press become so staggeringly unaware of what constitutes Anti-Semitism, whether it is perceived as "casual" or not? First Diane Abbott's ludicrous outburst published in the Observer, in which she tried to establish some sort of "Hierarchy of Racism ", in which only black people descended from those who had been chained in slave ships were Premier League, with Jews and others relegated to the 4th Division, along with those who have red hair, all of whom have merely experienced prejudice. And now the Guardian publishes a so-called cartoon of which Goebbels himself, Hitler's arch anti-semitic propagandist, would most certainly have approved. And yet there are those who still try to either defend or down-play this, even on this thread. Casual anti-Semitism is clearly far more prevalent than I had ever imagined, even here on GN. Depressing.

Yes, I'm choosing not to get it. Because it's a mountain out of a molehill.

Move on, there's offence to be taken this afternoon, you might miss it.

It’s only a couple of posters choosing not to get it, I think it’s best now to sigh and not bother answering.

Rosie51

^Its not a squid, its an octopus. Which is a reference to an article about Goldman Sachs, who he used to work for.^ yep just like the nazi portrayal in their lovely cartoon, complete with Star of David.

What are you talking about?

I think everyone is aware that depicting Muhammad, along with pork, bacon and even alcohol is deeply offensive to Muslims.

Maybe it’s time all faiths and their customs were respected and not ridiculed.

Its not a squid, its an octopus. Which is a reference to an article about Goldman Sachs, who he used to work for. yep just like the nazi portrayal in their lovely cartoon, complete with Star of David.

OK, I'm only digging myself a hole here, but here goes...

Its not a squid, its an octopus. Which is a reference to an article about Goldman Sachs, who he used to work for.

So the complaints and the complainants are looking for something to be offended about. And this is a bit of a stretch.

Or any pork products either.

Still not getting the antisemitism inherent in a squid though.

www.csustan.edu/sites/default/files/honors/documents/journals/thresholds/Farhadian.pdf

It's long been an antisemitic trope.

volver3

Newsflash!!

I get why people think its antisemitic, I just don't think that.

Still not getting the antisemitism inherent in a squid though...

Jewish folks only eat what they see as true fish those which have fins and scales. Which is why all shellfish and squid are not allowed to be included in their diet.

Newsflash!!

I get why people think its antisemitic, I just don't think that.

Still not getting the antisemitism inherent in a squid though...

Newflash!
You don’t have to be Jewish to dislike an openly anti-Semitic cartoon, which this was even if you don’t get it.

With all sincerity, and you can all respond as you see fit.

I don't think its antisemitic, but I'm not Jewish, so if other people do think that, then I defer to them.

I didn't know this man was Jewish either. I think that the cartoon is about Johnson, who is sitting on top of a pile of sh**, and the effect he has on those around him. But when we start to get comments about how the inclusion of a squid is antisemitic, things have got strange, haven't they?

I thought that they "in loving memory" card after HIGNFY was tasteless, but nobody has complained about that, as far as I can see.

In this world, as everyone keeps telling me, we are entitled to our own opinions in this world. Maybe those complaining here today should also remember the oft-heard chant on GN - you can't say anything these days without somebody taking offence!!

Does Volver3 really think this anti-semitism and posters reaction to it is being touchy? Or is it really about getting in a controversial remark whenever possible? Hmmm, let me see

This has all got very weird.

You are who? Or what? Sorry I don’t know you.
Black, Muslim, disabled, lesbian? Please explain.

Dear me.

And I, apparently, am the touchy one. 🤐